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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:16:20 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> I can see where he's going with it. It's an old chestnut,
> basically that only the brave and committed--those above
> 'so tall' (or is it a statement on predestination--only
> those predisposed to being this tall? Bill, have you gone
> Old Calvinist on us?)--can get into Heaven. Or maybe it's
> just a declaration of victory, a springing of the trap in
> anticipation, in the hopes that the 'besprung' will concede?
> Al Gore, are you listening? :)
No - I'm not a Calvinist, not Arminian either. I don't accept all of either
of their writings. Calvin claimed to be infallable! Couldn't take him
seriously after that. Arminius I liked a little more, but don't agree with
most of what he says - he just says it better.
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> It's still an analogy with no substance, because if you
> disallow the basic premise it collapses like a house of
> cards, and becomes nothing more than a maze of semantics.
> Whether or not he's right, this isn't how it's proven--
> for other examples, that in fact he's employed before,
> look up 'Pascal's Wager' (for starters). I encountered
> a lot of the theological trap-laying and reorganisation of
> knowlege hierarchies back in college, when engaged in the
> venerable Evolution vs. Creation debates--and as soon as
> it became clear that I had a map of their minefield, nobody
> was willing to debate me. Strange, that.
You falter in thinking that I was trying to make a theological point, I
wasn't. None of this is about theology, theology is the vehicle. I'm not
that complex (all that wager and hierarchy mumbo jumbo), sometimes it's
possible to be too smart by half.
This is far more specific.
But now I REALLY must be off, I'm late!
Bill
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> best,
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> LFB
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