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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:00:11 GMT
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But YOUR god (assuming he exists) sets the rules, so even if a person goes to
hell for their perceived sins, they go there because God made them, through the
rules. God, if he truly loved his children, would allow ALL into heaven,
regardless of sins. But that wouldn't have let the governments/churches hang
doom over people's heads to get them to behave, so we can't have something like
that.
I simply can't believe in such a petty and vengeful god as the Christian God.
If anyone were to convert me, it would be FAR outside of Christianity of any
type.
Bill Farkas wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> >
> > If your (stipulated to exist for the sake of this sentence) god sends me to
> > hell, he's not worthy of my worship. I will suffer eternal damnation rather
> > than worship a god who would punish someone as righteous as myself. And if
> > he doesn't, I'm fine.
>
> I can just see you as a child at the local amusement park: walking up to the
> roller coaster where the clown stands with his hand out saying if you're not
> this tall you can't ride the roller coaster. I can imagine little
> self-righteous ++Lar saying, "Well if your dumb ol' clown won't let me on
> the roller coaster then he's not worthy of my tickets." Conveniently
> deflecting attention from himself and directing it at the clown, when the
> fact is he just didn't measure up and can't face/deal with it.
>
> Bill
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> >
> > The former? I'd say it was YOUR position of certainty that was tenuous.
> >
> > ++Lar (almost but not quite atheist)
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| (...) One could argue that God truly loves His children and so gives them the choice to accept or reject His love. In a way, that's a more mature and respectful love than simply saying "I love you so you're in, whether you love me or not." Moreover, (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) He has done just that. He made a way for everyone to enter, some don't want it. I have to object to your statement "regardless of sin", though. You can't justify that statement. If he is holy, he can't do that. Also, for sake of argument, what (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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