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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:32:01 GMT
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"Selçuk Göre" <ssgore@superonline.com> wrote in message
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> So, knowing that there is no 100% sure method other than vastectomy
> (sp?) or its equivalent for women, then either lay down on operation
> table, or "if you don't want to have child, do not make sex ever" right?
> sorry Tim but: Hehehehehehehehe.
There are known methods of having sex and not having it result in pregnancy
which can be used. If you don't want to have a child, I would say don't
allow conception to take place - but under no circumstances kill the child
to get out of it.
> I don't see anyone who can decide this instead of us, the two of us, me
> and my wife, (actually much more my wife). It is not the business of
> anybody but us.
That's true - having sex and deciding whether or not to have children is up
to you and your wife, no one else.
> Embryo is nothing but a group of cells till a certain
> time is reached, which is also the safe period for the thing, and it
> will be my wife's decision to do it or not. And yes, it is certainly my
> wife's body, including the thing called embryo.
While it is inside your wife's body, it does have its own unique genetic
code and by some definition I would believe it to be a separate being.
> Abortion is a legal
> thing in Turkey, and I don't care if it will be illegal in some date. I
> don't have any problem with being illegal for the things that are
> absolutely personal. Period.
Here's another question, and one which is walking a fine line for me. Is
how you discipline your child only your business? For example, what if (and
this has been known to happen) a parent puts their child in a cage as
discipline, or in a dark room for long periods of time. Or abusively beats
them? Is that the parents' own personal business, or should someone step
in?
How different is that from ending the life of a child? If the child has
been outside the womb for a half of a second and is killed, its a murder
charge. In the US, if a drunk driver hits a car with a pregnant woman and
both the woman and the unborn child die, its a double homicide.
If I'm not mistaken (and I very well could be) abortion methods traumatize
the unborn child inside... they actually experience pain. How different is
that from punishing your child severely or abusing them? And moreso, the
end result is death!!
I'm saying that the fetus is a human life, and from a human rights
standpoint we have the responsibility to preserve life to the best of our
ability. How much more so would you preserve the life of someone of your
own blood than that of a complete stranger?? The child within the womb is
definitely that of both partners' blood.
The only way I would consider an abortion as an option would be if my wife
(I am not married, but when I get married) could die in the pregnancy. It
would be a decision carefully weighed by both of us and our doctor. In the
case of rape, my advice would be to take the 'morning after' pill whether
the victim knows they're pregnant or not.
I still stand against abortion as a whole, with only considering the special
situations of rape or death during childbirth as options for having one. A
life is a life, no matter what stage it is in.
--
Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com
http://www.ldraw.org - Centralized LDraw Resources
http://www.zacktron.com - Zacktron Alliance
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