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Re: Trying to understand
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:10:51 GMT
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Update:
Billy boy just said "Kids are dying everyday (Unless Congress passes new
gun control laws), they don't know it's an election year."
Al Gore was babbling about campaign finance reform, he is the one who
can't even follow the laws in the first place!
Can we wait until January to rip these malcontents out of the White
House?
Dan Boger wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:27:57 GMT "Scott E. Sanburn" <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote
> concerning 'Re: Trying to understand':
> > Well, here is a gut wrencher for all of you non violent types: teach
> > this in school. (The sound of alarms going off, leftists kicking in
> > their screens, mass rioting and hysteria result!) I have told this in
> > the last round of gun debates here in off topic, but here goes again
> > because we have some new people here:
>
> I agree that there should be better education - but as long as guns
> are around, accidents will happen. IDF [1] makes everyone go through
> basic training (anything from 3 weeks to 6 months) - in which they are
> tought a lot about weapons, and weapons safty - that doesn't mean that
> there are no gun accidents in the army though. Same goes for school -
> yes, you should teach kids how to be safe with guns, it doesn't mean
> they should be able to walk up to dad's cabinet and play with his
> shotgun.
Well, yes, but that's the parents job in the first place. The parent
should teach the children about guns, and the care. My dad had a loaded
pistol for years, and I never took it or played with it, and it was
always in an accessible place. He taught me about it.
> what's the hysteria again? (I may be lost)... isn't the issue trigger
> locks? what's wrong with you getting with a new gun a trigger lock?
> nothing says you have to use it, or that you can't throw it away...
A trigger lock issue is just another attempt by the government
(Clinton/Gore Administration especially) to get rid of guns, pure and
simple. A trigger lock might solve some minor problems, but will hurt
others. More legislation, more laws, etc. will not work. More education,
both by the NRA, and parents, would do better. The government can't do
anything right, and this is no different.
> isn't it? I think it still pretty rare that people carry (and use)
> guns on their commute... and I do think that road-rage will be a lot
> more scary if half the drivers were armed.
I wasn't talking about road rage, I was talking about carry / conceal
laws. Sorry, I got sidetracked.
> but doesn't that contradict your statment about how it's a right to
> carry arms? Don't felons have rights? (This is just for the debate's
> sake - I believe in a stricter gun control, not looser)
No, because once you start committing felonies and the like, you do
loose rights and so forth. The constitutional right to bear arms does
fall under this.
As soon as I can put controls and restrictions on your free speech
right, you can put restrictions on my gun rights. >:(
Scott S.
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| (...) wrote (...) I don't see how a trigger lock is an attempt to get rid of guns. A trigger lock is SUPPOSED to help prevent an accidental discharge from a gun, over and above what the safety switch is for. Do you think there was this much debate (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) how is this "trying tog et rid of guns"? solve problems like kids shooting themselves when they "just wanted to look at it"... hurt others? like not being able to shoot fast enough? well, if you keep your gun under your pillow, you probably (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I mostly agree with you. A dominant political philosophy of the last 8 years has been that government can & should solve all social problems. There is an inordinate amount of faith in the power of legislation, and a belief that the ends (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:27:57 GMT "Scott E. Sanburn" <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote concerning 'Re: Trying to understand': (...) I agree that there should be better education - but as long as guns are around, accidents will happen. IDF [1] makes (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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