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Re: Trying to understand
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Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:40:09 GMT
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:27:57 GMT "Scott E. Sanburn" <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote
concerning 'Re: Trying to understand':
> Well, here is a gut wrencher for all of you non violent types: teach
> this in school. (The sound of alarms going off, leftists kicking in
> their screens, mass rioting and hysteria result!) I have told this in
> the last round of gun debates here in off topic, but here goes again
> because we have some new people here:
I agree that there should be better education - but as long as guns
are around, accidents will happen. IDF [1] makes everyone go through
basic training (anything from 3 weeks to 6 months) - in which they are
tought a lot about weapons, and weapons safty - that doesn't mean that
there are no gun accidents in the army though. Same goes for school -
yes, you should teach kids how to be safe with guns, it doesn't mean
they should be able to walk up to dad's cabinet and play with his
shotgun.
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> When I was in the 6th grade, we had a 6th grade camp, for a week, to do
> a lot of things. One of the most interesting things was a weapons
> demonstration from the Michigan State Police, who showed us varying
> weapons, from the little 22's to a fully automatic M-16. They showed us
> the results of firing these weapons on watermelons, jugs, and the like.
> Finally, they demonstrated a bulletproof vest. What a lesson. Maybe we
> need to reevaluate education about guns rather than getting all out
> hysteria on single issues.
what's the hysteria again? (I may be lost)... isn't the issue trigger
locks? what's wrong with you getting with a new gun a trigger lock?
nothing says you have to use it, or that you can't throw it away...
> > I could see my commute getting uglier yet. :-)
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> Well, the current situation is no better.
isn't it? I think it still pretty rare that people carry (and use)
guns on their commute... and I do think that road-rage will be a lot
more scary if half the drivers were armed.
> > I partially agree with this statement.
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> Oh my, somebody agreeing with me...... (Hits floor!)
heh - too much snipping - dunno what he's agreeing with....
> > Criminals are just that, criminals. Nothing will stop them from getting the
> > illegal items that they want. I do believe that there are people that should
> > not be allowed to have weapons. Those who have committed felonies (although
> > what passes as a felony anymore may invalidate my point here), violent crimes,
> > etc. especially repeat offenders. That's not to say that they can't obtain a
> > weapon through darker channels, it just adds another punishable offense when
> > they do get caught.
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> Exactly. Non-law abiding citizens such as felons and repeat offenders
> should not.
but doesn't that contradict your statment about how it's a right to
carry arms? Don't felons have rights? (This is just for the debate's
sake - I believe in a stricter gun control, not looser)
:)
Dan
[1] Israeli Defense Force
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| Duane, (...) Well, here is a gut wrencher for all of you non violent types: teach this in school. (The sound of alarms going off, leftists kicking in their screens, mass rioting and hysteria result!) I have told this in the last round of gun debates (...) (25 years ago, 15-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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