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| | | (...) No John. I'm not repeating (nor speaking of) sour grapes. I have nothing against the conservatism of the appointees, I have something against the religious fundamentalism of them. You know, the same thing you don't like in Muslims. As it is, I (...) (19 years ago, 5-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | (...) I frankly don't care what they believe; it's what they do that can concern me... (...) Harriet Miers was a terrible choice-- unqualified, and a crony. The Dems should be thankful that they were spared the job of excoriating a woman nominee (...) (19 years ago, 5-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Timothy Gould
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| | | | --SNIP-- (...) I agree completely, but we'll have to wait and see what happens before deciding on this. (...) Wasn't me who confused the two. It was you. Thus my statement above regarding conservatism and fundamentalism. (...) I've seen no proof (...) (19 years ago, 5-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Tim David
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| | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote: --BIG--SNIP-- (...) But the flaw in that is that you don't have to be cohabiting to be married Another Tim (19 years ago, 5-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Well, see, this is part of the problem. If we wait, for instance, until Iran gets nukes and uses them, then it is a bit late, don't you agree? This is the reason for pre-emptive strikes. A stitch in time and all of that. (...) I guess I was (...) (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | (...) So you *do* care what gays believe? ROSCO (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Regarding what? (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | (...) I'm just trying to establish whether the statement you made about Iranians above also applies to gays. Does it? ROSCO (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) I was speaking in the context of Sharia. I don't care if Iranians believe in Sharia or any other system of law and order. What I do care about is how those beliefs affect their policies towards the outside world. So I don't think that your (...) (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | (...) That's what I was asking, thank you for clarifying. ROSCO (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Allister McLaren
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| | | | (...) So it's less about what they actually do than it is about what you believe they might do? a (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Not "less". What they are actually doing now is making serious threats and engaging in deliberately provocative behavior. So the question becomes, do we take them at their word, or do we take the chance that they are full of BS? We are being (...) (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations —Allister McLaren
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| | | | (...) O take the threats and so-on seriously, but to go to war over them is ia bit over the top. As much as it may pain you to hear it, if you want to justify going to war, then wait until they do an act of war, not just threaten. Thwart plans, yes. (...) (19 years ago, 6-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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