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Subject:	Pastel = Profit (Was Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general
Date:	Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:36:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes: > Yes, and until I see otherwise from TLC, I consider the "illegal 2000 scans" > to be "restrained and respectful use". I really DO want to hear from TLC > about it, one way or the other. What do you think they will say, bearing in mind that these are secret, not for public use documents? Hearing the phrase "pastel = profit" from a 1993 retailers catalogue may seem funny or harmless. But it makes me dislike the girly LEGO even more - that they weren't trying to produce something because they thought girls would benefit from it, but because they wanted to make money! Obviously, being a company this is their goal.. but if they had the phrase "pastel = profit" on their website how many parents do you think they'd entice to buy their products with such a cynical statement?? And if they want it as private statement to retailers, and they wouldn't tolerate it on their own website, then why the <expletive> would they say "Sure go ahead, put it on another website" ?? I ask you honestly - is there a possibility that you are using the fact that TLC will most probably not answer you to justify doing something that they probably wouldn't like and could hurt the community? I have no problem with being wrong, it's useful to expect that from time to time. But when I know that I could be wrong I would not risk something like hurting TLC-FOL relations, without good reason - and "Mummy didn't tell me not to paint the dog blue" is not an excuse to do it! Richard

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		Re: Pastel = Profit (Was Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?)
(...) And I ask YOU honestly, isn't the fact that TLC hasn't said anything about other things on other fan sites taken as implicit permission to do them? What's the difference? I'll be happy to eat crow if some TLC official makes a statement about (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)

		Re: Pastel = Profit (Was Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?)
(...) Oh? - PROVE IT! Quit shoving it down our throats as gospel, and PROVE IT. SHOW us the documents proving these are "secret". Are they limited production/circulation? Yes. Secret? PROVE IT. (...) Um, when did ANYTHING BUT the pics ever creep (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)

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		Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
(...) I'm pretty sure Lugnet and Brickshelf DO still exist because of this. However.... (...) That would be a MAJOR shift from their current Fair Use Policy, and I'd expect them to post such a change on lego.com and put a pointer to it. And until (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)

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