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| | | (...) But don't you see-- there is no definitive line! The line is where ever the sensibilities of a society is at any given point in time. Right now the current sensibilities of our society are being offended by certain individuals and society is (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) To be honest, the culture war has been going on since before the first human saw another human from outside his family. The culture war continues to this day and will continue until we're all assimilated: it's called society. I accept that (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Perhaps. But in all honesty, what are those values? (...) Look, I don't wish a "Theocracy" any more than you do. But I do wish a society where its citizens respect each others' rights. I believe that only a society that has a respect for a (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) Geez, I don't know if I can delineate them concisely, but they entail non-aggression, a respect for fact, and an acceptance that, lacking evidence to the contrary, this is all we have so let's all make the best of it. (...) I believe you. (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) and I honestly think that the envelope-pushing, rights-disdaining Religious Right will lead us to a theocratic dictatorship. Me, I'll take anarchy over that any day. ... but then, I'm a minarchist after all.. (...) Um, ya??? What was it you (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) Well, I will be by your side to see that it doesn't happen. (...) Uh, I don't think that you've fully considered the ramifications of such a silly statement. (...) What is that, exactly? (...) Touché! JOHN (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Cool. But I have my doubts. (...) Uh, don't be so sure. Theocratic dictatorships are nasty brutish places. I prefer some government to none, but I prefer none to overarching. (...) I prefer the least practically possible amount of (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Huh? Which Dave are we talking about here? Dave! (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Thought I was talking to Dave K... my bad... sorry about that, Dave! You're a closet (small L) libertarian already anyway, so never mind, Dave! (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | (...) You was talking to me, and then there was an interjection from Dave! Eh, too many Daves!!! Dave K (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) Really? I only know about the single factorial variety Dave! JOHN (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) Call us Legion. (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Legion of DOOM is more like it, Dave! (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | (...) Speaking of Doom3, since we were, indeed, speaking of it-- One video game that gave me nightmares, and it wasn't the gory video or the shooting--it was the sounds... it's a very disturbing video game, even when played in 'god' mode... Dave K (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) That's not funny. :-) JOHN (19 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality? —David Koudys
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| | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) YOu guys don't have 'socialized health care' but the last time I checked, there are seatbelt laws in the US. And not once during my (almost) 38 years has the gov't told mw what I can (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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