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Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:02:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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The final analysis--perfectly legal for a church to refuse to perform
marraiges, or anything else, they do not, under their idea of whatever
religious belief they ascribe to, believe in.
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I’m not sure this is how it should be in the US with our legal precident. If
sexual preference is a fully protected non-discrimination item, then private
churches won’t be able to refuse to marry them. Maybe this is what folks like
John are actually fearing.
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The state should recognize marraige as a contract between persons, no matter
their sexual affiliation.
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How many persons?
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The state should recognize any contract between any number of persons and give
no special treatment to contracts of marriage. The terms of the contract should
rule over the contract’s domain.
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The state, o nteh other hand, cannot make such a quantifier ‘cause it’s
sexual discrimination.
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So are public restrooms. Are you against separating those?
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Yes! Sex-private toilet facilities is just one more of our society’s insidious
prudish taboo-fostering vestigal artifacts. Why can’t we get past such
silliness?
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I don’t recall the church, in general, getting their knickers in a bunch
when athiests started getting married. I have many friends who are athiests
and who are married (even married in churches! *gasp*!)
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For what possible reason? That is downright strange.
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John, I agree. Like Dave, I’m an atheist who married an atheist. We got
married in a student union on the campus of the University of Missouri, where we
met. I would not have married in a church and I feel somewhat defiled when I
attend a wedding in one -- as if I were somehow condoning the evil that is
religion.
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Looking at this, and the ‘evolution of society’, what, with divorce,
non-belief, etc, the church cannot, and more importantly, should not,
dictate to everyone else in the society, ‘which way is up’.
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lol “evolution of society”? Are you so sure our society isn’t “devolving”?
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There’s no difference. If memes actually behave like genes, they tend toward
local fitness over time.
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People are morally rudderless; the Church is the moral anchor.
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Is this projection John? Are you truly a sociopath? I am not adrift in a moral
sense, and I feel deeply sorry for you, if that’s what you’re saying about
yourself. But you seem to have over-generalized from your own experiences.
Chris
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| (...) Marital status is a non-discrimination item, but that doesn't prevent the Catholic church from refusing to marry a divorced person. They can't be required to perform the ceremony if they can't be required to recognize the union, and forcing (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) How many persons? (...) So are public restrooms. Are you against separating those? (...) For what possible reason? That is downright strange. (...) Well, that "church" has some issues. (...) lol "evolution of society"? Are you so sure our (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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