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    Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Richard Parsons
   (...) Hard to see this as simply counter-spin. Indeed, its a bit light on for spin at all. It is a grave concern when folks can't seperate the spin from the facts. Its like treating the various newspapers in Don's other post (which for the most part (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Don Heyse
     (...) All media is biased in some way. And you're right, it's a problem that folks like yourself can't seem to see that. Anyhow, the point that I seem unable to make is that simply reprinting it adds nothing. It merely serves as propaganda. No doubt (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Dave Schuler
     (...) You're blurring the issue. The Bush administration made and continues to make claims and accusations regarding the "known" ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda, and those claims were used to justify the war that has resulted in over 800 American (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Christopher L. Weeks
     (...) Wanna bet? Chris (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Dave Schuler
      (...) 8^( No, alas. I guess it would have been more precise to say "legitimately" instead of "simply." Dave! (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Dave Schuler
      (...) Holy crap, I just found (URL) It's viewable for free, but registration will apparently be required before long. Here's the salient bit: The unidentified detainee, believed to be a leader of the outlawed Ansar al Islam group, was held without (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) No bet unless you're offering mighty attractive odds (say "lottery" odds of 1:1M or better... say, my single 1x1 red brick with eye printed on it against your entire collection). Clinton's blamable for bin Laden still being out there, he had (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Dave Schuler
     (...) Where's that from? I think I might have one, but I can't remember where I got it. Dave! (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Back to the Real Wasteland of the mind —Dave Schuler
     (...) Sorry--wrong FUT, and I forgot the 8^) Dave! (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
   
        freeper stuff —Don Heyse
   (...) In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote: (...) Whatever. I simply dug up the link because Dave's original post mentioned it and then immediately dismissed it with a somewhat misleading comment. With that link you and others are now (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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