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Once again, Ralph Nader is shooting for the impossible, and once again (hopefully NOT, this time, as people will remember last time), he will take votes from the Dems, possibly putting GWB back into office. Sometimes I wonder if he's on GWB's (...) (20 years ago, 23-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Given that Kerry is supposed to be a grass roots Democrat, I agree. If NR stands against the Democrats in marginal constituencies I hope Kerry puts him in Camp Delta (preferably in the same cell as Bush) when he wins ;-) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 23-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:4039AC44.FA1D7E...faq.com... (...) If you look at the two states where the Bush/Gore decision was narrow, you'll find that even if Nader hadn't run, the non-Dem non-Rep votes for fringe (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <dr_scott_arthur@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:HtJ8tJ.uAt@lugnet.com... (...) Kerry a "grass roots Democrat"? Whatever that means... (...) Camp (...) ...because it's all about revenge and unlawful imprisonment. Too bad they don't (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, that reminds me of something I occasionally think about. Since all politicians are corrupt, but they're all we have to work with, what works best? Two parties that may both marginally represent an insignificant portion of your interests, (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> wrote in message news:Htr6A9.1wy9@lugnet.com... (...) I think pork-barrel spending leads to corruption, but all hail the community so noble that they refuse to accept it. The lobbiests are at the root (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Get real. You're deluding yourself. A vote for Nader at this point is *a vote for Bush*. Keep voting indirectly for Bush. But don't whine if GWB gets reelected and continues hauling the US into a decline that may take decades to reverse. I (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think I disagree with this argument. Corporations represent their shareholders, not their employees. Would you complain if some other place goes beyond tax incentives and actually pays the company to relocate elsewhere, without you? The (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:403FA430.A8B67C...faq.com... (...) really (...) haven't (...) a (...) vote (...) Yeah, and... ...a vote for the Libertarian candidate is a vote for Bush... ...a vote for the Socialist (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> wrote in message news:HtrMwH.7KL@lugnet.com... (...) community (...) of (...) represent (...) then I (...) Many of my fellow employees are shareholders. They benefit when the company benefits. The (...) (20 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) None of those got millions of votes last election. That level of votes truly *is* a vote for Bush. (...) Or to anyone that doesn't want Bush in power again, regardless of their party or non-party affiliation. (...) He should have been easy to (...) (20 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:40405999.BF54E7...faq.com... (...) truly (...) How many Electoral votes did Nader get? Those are the ones that really matter. I don't think he got "millions of votes". He only got (...) (20 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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