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Re: Is Nader really a threat to Democracy?
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Fri, 27 Feb 2004 23:37:39 GMT
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message
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> Neb Okla wrote:
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> > I don't want Bush in office. I don't want Kerry in office. I don't • really
> > want Nader in office, but of those three he's the only candidate I • haven't
> > ruled out. A vote for Nader (or any fringe candidate) is a vote against • a
> > two party system.
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> Get real. You're deluding yourself. A vote for Nader at this point is *a • vote
> for Bush*.
Yeah, and...
...a vote for the Libertarian candidate is a vote for Bush...
...a vote for the Socialist Worker Party candidate is a vote for Bush...
...a vote for the Communist Party candidate is a vote for Bush...
...a vote for nobody is a vote for Bush.
Everything but a vote for a Democrat is a vote for Bush to a Democrat.
Bush should be easy to beat - everyone I know thinks he's an idiot and hates
him. Only the Democrats - or the Chicago Cubs - could manage to lose to
Bush again.
If you think blaming it all on Nader will help, go ahead Mr. "You're
deluding yourself".
> I don't like the 2-party system either. I'm independent, I don't consider
> myself a member of *any* party out there.
What kind of "independent" are you?
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html
When most people say "I'm independent" it really means "I can't be bothered
to give careful consideration to what I am". Nobody agrees with
*everything* any party says, so we're all Independent.
> But I also am not going to bury my
> head in the sand and say a vote for a candidate that will *NEVER* make it • into
> office is a vote against both parties. It's not, it's a vote against the • Dem
> candidate, and FOR GWB.
Ok, so who do you suggest I vote for if I want to vote against them both?
> Unless the Dem candidate is as bad as GWB (I can't imagine them finding • someone
> *that* bad), I will make a *realistic* vote for changing the leadership of • this
> country, and vote Dem.
So far the only candidates left are as bad as GWB IMHO.
> Independents don't have the pull yet. Maybe in the future. But I'm more
> interested in getting GWB out of office than throwing away the country's
> near/far future on making a statement.
If I vote for Bush, I get a more fascist government (TSA) - if I vote for
the Dem candidate, I get a more socialist government. Kind of sucks if
you're not into authoritarian regimes.
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| (...) None of those got millions of votes last election. That level of votes truly *is* a vote for Bush. (...) Or to anyone that doesn't want Bush in power again, regardless of their party or non-party affiliation. (...) He should have been easy to (...) (20 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Get real. You're deluding yourself. A vote for Nader at this point is *a vote for Bush*. Keep voting indirectly for Bush. But don't whine if GWB gets reelected and continues hauling the US into a decline that may take decades to reverse. I (...) (20 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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