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    Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
   (...) Of course, but even if we tortured and killed a known torturer and killer, it still wouldn't be morally equivalent to the torturing and killing of an innocent. And BTW, what IS justice for a known kidnapper and murderer of innocent children? (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I see no reason for cable TV or conjugal visits. Life in prison sounds about right though. (I beleive you asked this already) Note, again, my assertion that prisons need to be structured so that they do not cost the state money, but rather, (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
     (...) HA, don't let the Libs hear you say that;-) (...) But herein lies the rub. Does the punishment fit the crime? A 3 time drug abuser can get about the same length sentence (depending upon the ages of the criminals-- hey, life is only so long). (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Why? I would have thought all you Cons (of one ilk or another) stuck together anyway. ;-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
      (...) Hey, keep those puns in specified areas! (good one:-) JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) You're right, it's not. A 3 time drug "abuser" hasn't necessarily committed any actual crime at all, so shouldn't be in jail for his/her "crime". I'm glad to see you've decided to come to the side of the angels and oppose the war on drugs, at (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Frank Filz
     (...) money, (...) their (...) work? (...) Hmm, I might still let them have slop... I would offer a variety of incentives. I don't see a problem with prisoners who are on their way to rehabilitation having access to TV and such. In fact, if they are (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Scott Arthur
   (...) It is hard for me to see how prison could be zero cost. Criminals tend to on the dim side and have low earning potential. How could one motivate them to work without rewarding them with (say) cable TV? In the UK, the cost of keeping a man (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Ross Crawford
   (...) (URL) I suppose they can...> ROSCO (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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