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    Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) But, John, the death penalty is, so, well, final. What if there was a mistake? It does happen, you know. Even in these apparently close and shut cases, with "confessions" and neat surveilance videotapes and everything. What if the prison (...) (20 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Chris Phillips
     (...) Wow, this is an interesting idea. Maybe this is what was meant by "an eye for an eye..." Part out the death row inmates to save other lives. Something King Solomon would appreciate, I'm sure. - Chris. (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Not my original idea. Try googling using Niven and Corpsicle as search terms... also try Gil Hamilton, ARM and Patchwork Girl. Note that it's not Niven's original idea either, I don't think. (at least the frozen corpse part of it anyway) (...) (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Lester Witter
     (...) The idea of using desth row prisoners as "parts" was explored in a SciFi story by Larry Niven (can't remeber the name). The hypothesis of his story was that if the condemed were used for parts, then over time, more and more crimes would become (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Several, actually... you and I were posting at about the same time and I gave some suggestions for finding them. (...) There IS that tiny downside, yes. Hence another reason to oppose the death penalty. (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —David Koudys
      In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lester Witter wrote: <snip> (...) It was also used in "Lexx" the miniseries... THough in that series, iirc, almost any offence got you put up on the slab to be parsed (even being late for work!), and, again iirc, much (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) I fixed it, there is something there now if you click that ersatz link. :-) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Frank Filz
     "lester Witter" <witter@erim-int.com> wrote in message news:HstoCt.1xzx@lugnet.com... (...) story (...) that if (...) would (...) man was (...) This is definitely a concern. I think I would be concerned even if it was done in such a way as to not be (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
   (...) My whole point is so what? An innocent get killed. Your idea releases a killer and he kills again. Both result in an innocent killed. What's the difference? (...) What were you saying about torture? On second thought; maybe we have a win-win (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) You want the state to do it, that's the difference. (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
     (...) So you think that the state isn't in any way culpable for the murder of an innocent by a murderer who has been set free? (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Didn't say that. In fact I do think there is culpability, if it can be shown that the state did not do its job in prosecuting the case. I can see the basis for a civil suit by the second victims against the cops that failed to properly (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Frank Filz
     (...) releases a (...) the (...) You're speaking as if the only alternative to the death penalty is letting people free. If you can show me with reasonable certainty that a given person is a danger to society, then I am willing to put them in prison (...) (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —Christopher L. Weeks
   (...) Would you prefer your child to be wrongly executed by a court or murdered by some psycho? Chris (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: This is where I actually want a gun —John Neal
   (...) Neither. But the results are the same aren't they? JOHN (20 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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