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Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:54:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
> > > Seriously though we need to keep this whole "high crime rate in
> > > the US" thing is perspective. A person more likely to be killed in a car
> > > accident on their way to work then they are to be robbed by an armed
> > > criminal and live through it. (And armed robbery is far more frequent than
> > > actually being killed by a criminal.)
> >
> > That may be so, but so what? The fact remains that gun-homicide rates are
> > shockingly high in the US (with its relatively loose gun control laws) as
> > compared with other nations (some of which have relatively tight gun control
> > laws). Relative to other nations, the US gun-homicide rates *is* high,
> > objectively speaking.
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> That has always been the case regardless of the other countries Gun Control
> laws.
Then you need to pick a side to stand on. Are you saying that increased gun
control *does* lead to an increased crimerate, or are you saying that increased
gun control is irrelevant to an increased crimerate? If the former, then your
statement invalidates itself. If the latter, then your statement invalidates
your prior arguments in this thread. Which is it?
> Gun Control is not about crime it is about Government
> control over the people. It is just another piece of the puzzle.
>
> http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=21135
That may be your belief, but the post to which you've linked is pure
witnessing rather than argument, except as anecdotal (and therefore non-useful)
evidence. In any case, small-arms fire is irrelevant to a concerted modern
military as anything except an annoyance. Sure, it's tragic that a marine was
killed by a sniper, but the overall objective is not really affected. Ask David
Koresh how useful his small-arms weaponry was against the ATF. Then ask Randy
Weaver how useful his small-arms weaponry was.
There are those who advocate full freedom of ownership of any military-grade
weaponry for all citizens, including tanks, nukes, battleships, and
what-have-you. But once that point is made, I consider the argument to have left
the bounds of reason.
Dave!
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