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| | | (...) The market is plenty free--we have 200+ nations to choose from! The fact that no nation has arisen to suit the desires of every last person is irrelevant. That's the market in action. Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) There are sufficiently high barriers to entry (the 200+ nations collude together to prevent new entrants) that your assertion that "the market is free" is false, Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) How so? Do you mean we're not free to form a new nation, or that we're not free to move from one to the next? In some cases, the latter is certainly true, but that's just the market in action; different types of product are available, with (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | Preface: Plowed ground alert. I probably shouldn't have posted a flurry of responses, just summarised and let it go. This has been discussed before at length. That said, onward. (...) Not in and of itself. But if you had a grand scheme for a $1000 (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) I think you simply couldn't resist an opportunity to invoke Dave! (...) I may be misunderstanding the question, but let me try with a hypothetical stab at it. Suppose you and a group of like-minded individuals locate and claim a previously (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) I think Larry is referring to the constraints of the monopoly of the 2 party system in America. As I have in the past, I see nothing wrong with joining one of the 2 parties and working for change *within* that context instead of trying to (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —David Koudys
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| | | | | | (...) Because others do things in a way that doesn't adhere to the "Too high" standard that the almighty United States sets for the rest of the world... I'll stick with Canada, where new political party(s) can spring up overnight, and long standing (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Does such an island exist? As far as I can tell, all land on this planet is either claimed by some particular government (and thus ought not to be hived off without the acquiescence of that government, or of the landowners or at least of (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Alas, that's just the way it goes; do you think that in a government-less world that wouldn't be the case? I want the free market to cough up a free place for me to live, but the free market doesn't do that any more than the current situation (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) I'll let the market (of ideas) decide. Oh wait, it did! You lost, Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Really? Then why can I only choose from a field of one cable company in my area? Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Because you have a coercive monopoly. A government granted that company a monopoly... But you know this already, Dave! What are you up to? (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This... —David Koudys
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| | | | (...) Yes, seriously--why is that? One cable company--I hate that. I don't want to go to satellite 'cause then I lose my internet connex, and I dislike High Speed dial-up, etc. But every few months, my cable bill goes up a couple of dollars, even (...) (21 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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