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Subject:	Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
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Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:33:39 GMT
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> BBC brings the heat: "War with Iraq 'could be illegal'" > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2826331.stm Following up on this point: "International War Crimes Court Is Inaugurated, but Without U.S." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12630-2003Mar11.html Salient portions: ----------------- Since abrogating the Clinton administration's signature last year, the Bush administration has persuaded 24 countries to sign bilateral agreements with the United States, pledging not to surrender to the court U.S. nationals or foreigners working under U.S. contract. The U.S. Congress has passed legislation authorizing the president to take "all means necessary" to free Americans taken into custody by the court. Human rights activists say the bilateral agreements pressed by the United States risked undermining a core founding principle of the court -- that no one is immune from prosecution for war crimes. "The real objective is to try to undermine the legitimacy of the court by creating a two-tiered standard of justice -- one for Americans and foreign nationals working for the United States, and another for everyone else," said Richard Dicker of the New York-based organization Human Rights Watch. ----------------- Now I ask my fellow americans: why would Shrub Jr. want to "abrogate" the effective signature of something we, as a nation, were already onboard with under Clinton? Which is worse: Oval Office Oral, or the War Crimes Shuffle? Get your priorities straight. -- Hop-Frog

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
Ladies and Gentlemen, it's laugh or cry time: (by the rockets red glare...) ---...--- [today's performance only, the part of Billy is played by the President of the United States -- George W. Bush, Jr.!] (Spoken) Roxie, you got nothing to worry (...) (22 years ago, 18-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) Does anyone know why? Lets see; no right to fair jury, no right to language translator, no right to legal counsel, and you can be imprisoned in any country the court chooses. This applies to civilians as well as military personel. I don't (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
Recent articles that intrigued me: ---...--- BBC brings the heat: "War with Iraq 'could be illegal'" (URL) Flatly Declares No Connection Between Saddam and al Qaeda: (URL) a joke) Associated Press reports "thousands", while BBC reports "millions" of (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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