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astonishingly light? [Re: Its about time someone put this concept in print.]
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Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:15:50 GMT
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> German civilian loses were somewhere around 2,000,000. Civilian loses
> caused by the US in 1992 and Afghanistan were astonishingly light in
> comparison. Actually invading Iraq will cause more civilian damage than in
> the Desert Storm operation, though.
I can't see the wood for the trees! I found this page:
Afghanistan War Produces High Civilians-Killed-Per-Bomb-Dropped Ratio
http://www.cursor.org/stories/civpertons.htm
key passage:
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After surveying numerous reports on civilian impact deaths caused by bombing, I
estimate the following numbers : Cambodia @ 100,000; Iraq @ 3,000; Serbia @
1,200; and Afghanistan @ 3,700. These translate into respective kill ratios
[civilians killed per 10,000 tons of bombs] of : Afghanistan @ 2,643; Cambodia
@ 1,852; Serbia @ 522; and Iraq @ 341.
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So the civilian kill rate is 2643 innocents per 10000 tons of bombs.
300k-600k German civilians were killed in WW2 due to bombing. After some
searching, I found an estimate that the UK & USA [i.e. not the allies] dropped
1350000 tons of bombs on Germany [’37 borders]. That gives a kill rate of
~0.3x10^6 / [1.35x10^6/10000] = ~2222 per 10000 tons of bombs.
or
~0.6x10^6 / [1.35x10^6/10000] = ~4444 per 10000 tons of bombs.
So the civilian kill rate is ~2222-4444 innocents per 10000 tons of bombs.
I'm open to correction if anyone can find better data. I expect death rates in
both Germany & Afghanistan to be a good deal higher.
Scott A
Two axe grinders: ;)
Bombs on Germany:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p381_Wesserle.html
Bomb Deaths:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP13.HTM
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