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Re: People are idiots...
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Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:27:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richie Dulin writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richie Dulin writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/02/03/sprj.colu.ebay.ap/index.html
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> > > > > The gist--idiots were selling supposed fragments from the Columbia on eBay.
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> > > > > Yes I said idiots. Whether they're actual fragments or not, it would take
> > > > > an idiot to cash in on this tragedy.
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> > > > Or a true capitalist with no conscience.
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> > > Now that's a tautology!
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> > No, actually it's an oxymoron.
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> I don't think so - conscience could unnecessarily inhibit the free
> interaction of supply and demand.
True capitalism is more than just supply and demand, it requires recognition
of property rights. Selling stuff that you stole is just thuggery or
fencing, not capitalism.
> > A true capitalist recognizes rights and doing
> > what's right, and does so.
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> Which rights would they be?
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> How does 'Doing what's right' apply to true capitalism? What *is* right?
All rights are property rights. What is right is to respect them.
In this particular case the shuttle is property and it's clearly not
abandoned property, so the salvage rules don't apply. Interfering with
recovery of the property is at least theft if not interference with the
proper operation of an investigation.
Passing something off as being from the shuttle when its not is fraud, so
you don't get an out that way either.
Fundamentally, if you think capitalism can operate without property rights,
your understanding of capitalism is flawed. The mafia are not capitalists.
It's socialism that operates without respect for rights, not capitalism.
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| (...) Well, my good friend Larry, you are totally wrong here. Capitalism is nothing more than putting a price on everything, including the rights. Your definition of capitalism is idealized. On the other hand, socialism does NOT operate without (...) (22 years ago, 8-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Capitalism (was: People are idiots...)
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| Capitalism merely refers to an economic system in which the capital is controlled by private rather than public interests. All this "capitalists with a conscience" stuff is silly. (...) How do you figure? What you're discussing is either a matter of (...) (22 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I don't think so - conscience could unnecessarily inhibit the free interaction of supply and demand. (...) Which rights would they be? How does 'Doing what's right' apply to true capitalism? What *is* right? Richie (22 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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