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Re: How not to get fired...
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Thu, 21 Nov 2002 19:02:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Work for the US Federal Government, that's how!
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> > "Federal personnel data shows that just 434 civilian federal workers were
> > fired for poor performance in 2001." (well under 1 in a thousand... not
> > surprising since 98%+ get "fully satisfactory" performance ratings)
> 2 - Since no good debater responded to this post, I shall henceforth assume
> that we all agree this is true, US government workers don't have to perform.
I can think of one gov't employee I'd really like to see fired, but he was
more-or-less hired by his dad. I've worked a number of jobs alongside sons
or daughters of the employer, and time and again I've observed their
tendency to, let us say, relax a bit more than other employees were allowed
to do. The message was clear; when freed of the fear of termination or
serious reprisal, a key motivating factor is eliminated. Witness the
carefree abandon with which a certain gov't employee continues to subvert
the Constitution.
It seems to me that the real point of contention would arise only if one
assumes that "don't have to perform" is equivalent to "inherently can't
perform." It doesn't appear that you are assuming this, but I can picture
someone drawing that conclusion, so it's important to make the distinction.
So what's the answer? Some would say competitive privatization, but I
frankly trust big corporations even less than I trust big
government--certainly when it comes to issues of the environment or price
gouging or product safety or worker safety or executive accountability, to
name just a few! Maybe a good first step would be simply to remove the
elected-for-life status that so many gov't employees enjoy. We could start
with Federal judges and go from there.
Dave!
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| (...) I think I know who you mean and he certainly wasn't hired by ME, not even a little bit. Nor was his dad, for that matter. (...) Ashcroft? Not sure who you mean, as there are so MANY candidates, unfortunately, that fit the description. (...) I (...) (22 years ago, 21-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) fired (compared to how for profit businesses where employee performance presumably matters) is not the same thing as suggesting that there ought to be a quota(1) on how many people get fired a year in government. The point is that US (...) (22 years ago, 21-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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