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Re: How not to get fired...
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Date: 
Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:17:27 GMT
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I can't think of many overpaid Government employees, but looking at a
picture of the castle that the CEO of Enron is/was having built made me
sick. Everywhere in commercial companies there's a handful of fat cats
(literally, usually) who just hand each other easy jobs, bonusses, golden
handshakes... Why is it that the people who can afford to buy a top of the
range Merc from their salary get one from the company? Why do companies feel
they have to pay x million to get a 'top manager' in, pay him another couple
of million a year to have him destroy the company, then fork out another
bunch of millions to get rid of him?
Good old Dilbert comes to mind here:
    Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power.
    Postulate 2: Time is Money.
From engineering we know:       Power = Work / Time
Since                                 Knowledge = Power
and                                             Time = Money
this means                         Knowledge = Work/Money.
Solving for Money, we get:
                                                Money = Work / Knowledge.
Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, regardless of
the amount of work done.

Conclusion:

The less you know, the more you make.

Duq






"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:H5y1v2.CKn@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > > Work for the US Federal Government, that's how!
> > > > 
> > > > "Federal personnel data shows that just 434 civilian federal workers • were
> > > > fired for poor performance in 2001." (well under 1 in a thousand... not
> > > > surprising since 98%+ get "fully satisfactory" performance ratings)
> > 
> > > 2 - Since no good debater responded to this post, I shall henceforth • assume
> > > that we all agree this is true, US government workers don't have to • perform.
> > 
> >  I can think of one gov't employee I'd really like to see fired, but he • was
> > more-or-less hired by his dad.
> 
> I think I know who you mean and he certainly wasn't hired by ME, not even • a
> little bit. Nor was his dad, for that matter.
> 
> > I've worked a number of jobs alongside sons
> > or daughters of the employer, and time and again I've observed their
> > tendency to, let us say, relax a bit more than other employees were • allowed
> > to do.  The message was clear; when freed of the fear of termination or
> > serious reprisal, a key motivating factor is eliminated.  Witness the
> > carefree abandon with which a certain gov't employee continues to subvert
> > the Constitution.
> 
> Ashcroft? Not sure who you mean, as there are so MANY candidates,
> unfortunately, that fit the description.
> 
> >  It seems to me that the real point of contention would arise only if • one
> > assumes that "don't have to perform" is equivalent to "inherently can't
> > perform."  It doesn't appear that you are assuming this, but I can • picture
> > someone drawing that conclusion, so it's important to make the • distinction.
> 
> I don't think I'm assuming it. Certainly not intending to. I expect a lot • of
> slackers at mid levels actually COULD lead useful productive lives if they
> had to. But I am ont following why this is a point of contention.
> 
> Note that I don't want to use TOO broad a brush here. For every 10 • goverment
> employees I have personally encountered who desperately need to be fired • and
> are clearly massively overpaid, I can think of 1 or 2 I've met who are
> working really hard under terrible conditions and who are significantly
> undercompensated. So it's not 100%
> 
> >  So what's the answer?  Some would say competitive privatization, but I
> > frankly trust big corporations
> 
> What about little ones?
> 
> > even less than I trust big
> > government--certainly when it comes to issues of the environment or price
> > gouging or product safety or worker safety or executive accountability, • to
> > name just a few!  Maybe a good first step would be simply to remove the
> > elected-for-life status that so many gov't employees enjoy.  We could • start
> > with Federal judges and go from there.
> 
> Or just start with all elected officials?



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  Re: How not to get fired...
 
(...) I think I know who you mean and he certainly wasn't hired by ME, not even a little bit. Nor was his dad, for that matter. (...) Ashcroft? Not sure who you mean, as there are so MANY candidates, unfortunately, that fit the description. (...) I (...) (24 years ago, 21-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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