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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:10:14 GMT
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Do I think the gov't is my friend?  Do I think, or ever say, that the gov't
won't pass a dumb-ass law?  Not once do I say this.  However, I'm not one
for throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  I'm not one to go off on a
shooting spree if something doesn't go my way.  I don't have a revolution
waiting just under the surface, ready to erupt when things don't go my way.
I believe that in a democratic process the people will do what's best for
the people.  If you don't like this democratic process, well there are
plenty of non-democratic countries you can move to, and they prob'ly like
guns as much as you do--I think lots of 'em even walk around with guns
openly.

Like the Taliban controlled Afganistan for example.  Never mind that the whole
point of the MILITARY and POLICE carring guns openly was to make sure that the
citizens were unarmed and in fear for their lives.  There is a reason that the
3 biggest supporters of gun control in the 20th century were Adolf Hittler, Joe
Stalin, and the Chinese Communist founder (Who's name I can not recall right
now.)

As for me, I'll stick with what we have, and I'll work within the
system to make it better.


"Government is not reason and it is not eloquence. It is force! Like fire it
is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." -- George Washington


Again, we are in a society which elects its government.  We are its master,
as well as its servants--if we don't like our masters, we can vote 'em out
of office.  End of story.

What would you do if Congress decided to cancel elections this year?

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." --Thomas Jefferson to
William Stephens Smith, private letter.

-- Hop-Frog

And if we have a stong and healthy tree of liberty, tyrants can't happen,
therefore no need for the blood of patriots to be spilled.--David Koudys to
LUGNET, not so private letter.

Dave K.

History and human nature contradict your views.  I think it would be awesome if
we could actually live in the ideal world which you seem to think we are in.
(And I am being serious NOT sarcastic)  Just remember here in the USA it is
easier for a criminal to purchase a gun on the black market than it is for a
law abiding citizen to purchase a gun through legal channels. You can pass all
the laws you want it will not stop criminals. Congress ordered an independant
study a few years ago. It was pidgeon holed because it contradicted with
Clinton's agenda. In areas with comparable crime rates and gun control laws;
those that have tightened gun owenership restrictions have increased their
crime rates, those that have loosened gun owenership restrictions have
decreased their crime rates.

-Mike Petrucelli



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