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| | | (...) you didn't but you seem to imply that if I don't believe in God, I shouldn't bother applying for citzenship...? Dan (22 years ago, 29-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —John Neal
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| | | | (...) All I am saying is that the phrase "so help me God" is a part of it. Whether one believes in God or not is irrelevant (to me at least). -John (22 years ago, 29-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —Thomas Stangl
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| | | | Sure, it's irrelevant to you because you have no problem cramming it down other's throats. Repugnant. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (22 years ago, 29-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Hardly. What I meant was it's irrelevant to me because it is none of my business *what* other people believe-- they are free to believe what they wish. -John (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —Thomas Stangl
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| | | | Yet you see no problem in forcing God down everyone's throats, as long as they keep their mouths shut and stop "crying": "(unless one is an atheistic activist who goes about crying about being persecuted for believing in nothing)." (your words) "I (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Where's the "force"? down everyone's throats, as long as they keep (...) persecuted for (...) My words happen to echo Judge Fernandez's dissent (though I hadn't read it at the time). No one is being forced to say the pledge (that was ruled (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | (...) The force is a social compulsion. When I was young, I thought that the right thing to do was to refuse to recite the pledge because I didn't agree to it. My first grade teacher (Mrs. Henderson - Fern Drive Elementary, Fullerton, CA) tried to (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) I agree! If the US Mint has the wherewithal to commission 50 new designs of quarter, it really should take much to scour the religious invocations from future stampings. And to address John's frothing over-reaction; no one here is trying to (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | (...) In school (we are talking about PoA in public school) the pressure may come from the teacher, the state, classmates, or a combination of them. It happens all the time. It has been noted here before, but you seem to ignore the point. Claiming (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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