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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:09:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:

And what's next on the edit list, Tom?  Coins?  Declaration of Independence?
The National Anthem?  The nuts here are those bound and determined to strike
every iota of reference to God from our culture, regardless of the effect >>upon them or country.

I think that religious references should be stricken, at least, from oaths and
pledges that people are socially expected to take part in.

  I agree!  If the US Mint has the wherewithal to commission 50 new designs
of quarter, it really should take much to scour the religious invocations
from future stampings.
  And to address John's frothing over-reaction; no one here is trying to
eradicate God from our culture, since to do so would be foolish and an utter
infringement upon the rights of those who choose to believe.  We are trying
to prevent the State from establishing any religion, or from establishing a
lack of religion, for that matter.  We object not to religion but to State
establishment of it.  To frame the debate in any other terms is to
misrepresent the issue.

To do less is to specifically draw attention to those who refuse to take part.

  When I was a child there was a teacher in my public elementary school who
required us to say grace before we could eat our lunches.  No one wanted to
be the oddball, so we all recited together...

     Dave!



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  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) The force is a social compulsion. When I was young, I thought that the right thing to do was to refuse to recite the pledge because I didn't agree to it. My first grade teacher (Mrs. Henderson - Fern Drive Elementary, Fullerton, CA) tried to (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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