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| | | (...) And everybody can get a job anywhere they want. I see. (...) Lung cancer does not necessarily have anything to do with smoking. My grandfather died from it, and he never touched a cigarette in his life. However, his employer felt fit to (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: What happened? —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | (...) Well, no. The finiteness of the situation says they can't. From what I've seen public universities are an abundant source of jobs with good benefits. And you seem not to need a clue to get a job there. (...) OK. There is no disease where I can (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Denscombe
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| | | | | | (...) One of my friends has been looking for any job anywhere doing virtually anything and yet still is unemployed - the European economy is very different to the booming US Economy - and we all know what happens after a boom. (25 years ago, 13-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Why is that, exactly? Compare and contrast the unemployment rate in Germany to that in Ireland. Factor of 4 difference. Why? What's different, exactly? Discuss. (...) I'll bite. What? Why? (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Terry Keller
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| | | | | | | (...) Umm... A slowly fading rumble? -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Denscombe
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| | | | | | (...) I thought we was comparing the US Economy to that of Europe's. Ireland's economy is improving because of the peace agreement - money is flooding in because it won't get blown up by terrorist ground strikes. Germany however and to squeeze it's (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Robinson
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| | | | | | | (...) I'm not sure you can really compare the US economy to Europe's since Europe still doesn't really have a single economy - after all isn't that one of the problems the Euro is having? We've got some countries doing well and some countries not (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | You were getting on about how great Europe is compared to the US. My point is that the US economy, having just went through a period of some deregulation, and a period in which a number of new industries sprang up faster than the government could (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Denscombe
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| | | | | | | (...) OK. (...) The Republic of Ireland has always been poorer than Northern Ireland, one of the reasons people in NI want to stay part of the UK. Bombings appeared both sides of the border, just because none have occured in the last year doesn't (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Robinson
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| | | | | | | (...) I'd strongly dispute that. Business cycles have been happening for centuries, since long before Governments started interventionist economic policies. To a large extent those interventionist policies in many countries started in response to (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:05:48 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote: You know, up til now, what you said made at least a modicum of sense. (...) Business cycles have _nothing_ to do with government interventions. There have been documented (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) That's one of us, anyway. <zing> Just kidding. (...) Sorry, I forgot. There wasn't government back in 1503, and it didn't meddle in the economy either. How silly of me. (...) Trust me, government intervention wasn't done for god's sake, it was (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Robinson
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| | | | | | (...) So you are arguing that if you remove all Government intervention, then there won't be any business cycles? You are also apparently arguing that there has always been Government intervention? You appear to have argued yourself into a corner, (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) No empirical evidence that's definitive, but theoretical proofs exist, (and not based on invisible heat sorting demons or market information communicators). Further, the less intervention there is, the longer the booms last and the less severe (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Robinson
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| | | | | | (...) Well if you believe you can point us to a theoretical proof I'd be interested to see it (seriously). I'd have to say however that I'd be extremely sceptical of any proofs, because. (1) The theory of the free market relies on a number of (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: What happened? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) True. (...) And the fact that you don't have a gun in your house meant that every day when the troops came by to drag your grandfather off to work even though he didn't think it was safe, he went instead of resisting? (...) Larry "very tired (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: What happened? —Simon Denscombe
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| | | | | (...) We can resist without guns you know, have you heard of the marching season in Ireland - some go through opposition housing estates such as the Orange marches through Catholic estates. Sometimes there is massive resistance of the petrol bomb (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: What happened? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | (...) Have you ever heard of the concept "Jobs are not plentiful"? Apparently not. Life for a working-class man in the 60's and 70s, especially with a child going through university, is not a picnic, and quitting usually just Is Not An Option. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: What happened? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Why were these jobs hard to come by? Perhaps it had something to do with the government meddling in the economy trying to make jobs easy to come by... It's always easy to try to explain away courses of action after the fact by citing excuses. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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