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Subject:	Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:26:22 GMT
Reply-To:	C576653@CCLABS.MISSOURI.stopspammersEDU
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Mike Stanley wrote: > > Christopher L. Weeks <c576653@cclabs.missouri.edu> wrote: > > frown on it dramatically through whatever is appropriate given the > > context of the society in question. (brace yourselves) For our > > in-your-face and in-your-wallet government, I suppose sterilization, and > > removing the children to families that will take care of them would be appropriate. > > I agree. > > I've actually thought a plan of universal reversible sterilization > would do just fine, with some form of proof of worthiness to be > un-sterilized. The worthiness part is the tricky part - I know I'm > not qualified to make decisions like that, although I submit that > collectively we all are. For sake of clarity, I only think such a procedure should be employed for those who demonstrate the unwillingness to care for their young. People can disagree with me in any number of ways and still have the RIGHT to have kids as long as they are going to care for them in a societally acceptable manner. I think that employment of spanking as a disciplinary measure is a childish and mostly unfruitful punitive measure - and even minor physical abuse - but it's not enough for me to condemn you to sterility. Smoking crack in the car with your infant (on the first offense) is. I also think that sterilization should be a (necessary but not sufficient) prerequisite for almost any social benefits like food stamps, welfare, medicaid, etc. -- Sincerely, Christopher L. Weeks central Missouri, USA

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) I grew up during the 60s - remember the era that fought for equal rights, fought against the war in Vietnam, fought for student rights, fought against oppression of the poor by the rich, fought to get assistance to those who were in need. You (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) For the sake of clarity I agree with the sort of punitive sterilization you describe here, for those reasons. I just think people can prove in many ways that they most likely will BE unfit to care for their children. Like I said, I don't think (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) I agree. I've actually thought a plan of universal reversible sterilization would do just fine, with some form of proof of worthiness to be un-sterilized. The worthiness part is the tricky part - I know I'm not qualified to make decisions like (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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