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Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
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Wed, 9 Dec 1998 02:26:51 GMT
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Mike Stanley wrote:

Larry Pieniazek <lpien@ctp.IWANTNOSPAM.com> wrote:

Not trying to suggest that these two examples are even remotely
similar,

Oh, but they are. There is a direct link between thinking that it's OK
to ask/force someone else to support you, or someone else who's not
deserving, and thinking it's OK to cheat a store out of what is rightly
theirs.

Either you respect property rights, or you don't. You can't only sort of
respect them.

but do you see this "self-sacrifice" flaw as being an
essentially wrong thing or just a misguided thing?  I guess that would
depend on how much power the person who was flawed had to inflict that
flawed view on others...

Essentially wrong. But the power of the drumbeat preaching self
sacrifice is strong, so I can't get too upset with people not knowing
better. It's when they try to argue for it that I try to stop arguing
because we have no basis of agreement.

But we are far afield of the original thread. And I can get along with
people that believe in self sacrifice, as long as I'm not the self
they're sacrificing.

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Larry Pieniazek    http://my.voyager.net/lar
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Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
 
(...) Well, maybe I didn't make myself clear. I don't care for people telling me that I need to sacrifice for others, but what I was talking about, I think anyway, was someone choosing to do it of his own accord. Like me and Rachael giving money to (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote (...) But Larry, the good (selfish) view is that changing tags is fine because you benefit at the expense of people you don't know. Property rights work best when you can persuade others to adhere to them while you don't. (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Ldraw cannon
 
(...) I have a shooting cannon in my to-render-bucket, but unfortunately, it has low priority. Also, at the Tracked Parts List at (URL) it says: 3 Cannon Zach Coakley Planning to Work On 1/7/98 I'll never learn if that means January 7th or July (...) (26 years ago, 6-Nov-98, to lugnet.cad)

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