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Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China
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Date: 
Thu, 6 Sep 2001 18:31:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
[snip]

We are
all aware of China's human rights violations, and we're all aware of the
UK's troubles in Ireland.  For that matter, the grenade-tossing incident
stems from centuries-old Catholic/Protestant friction and is, as I
understand it, largely independent of British occupation.


Hi Dave,

The above comment really caught me by surprise - I've never before heard of any
theory or perspective that could justifiably separate the Catholic/Protestant
friction in Northern Ireland from the British presence there.  The two elements
have always been inextricably linked, and trying to consider one on its own
merits without the context of the other one seems rather ... well, impossible.
But before I go off on a rant, I figured it might be wise to get some
clarification first ...

I might be misreading what you wrote - it seems that you're saying that the
incident in question was precipitated primarily by religious tensions, but that
the British influence/presence in Northern Ireland was not a contributing or
related factor?

If that is indeed what you're saying, would you mind elaborating?  I'd be very
interested in hearing the main points in this theory, particularly the basis of
that claim.

Regards,
Shaun



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  Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China
 
(...) Yeah--call that some ham-fisted wording on my part. I was trying to isolate it to a theological dispute, but of course that very dispute stems from the occupation. So stipulated! (...) The basis of that claim is a failure to articulate what I (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China
 
(...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China
 
(...) Well, now I've started I may as well get fully involved in .debate! Shaun You may like to consider separating British Military presence (which began in the early 1970's at the request of the Catholic community to protect them from Protestant (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Greg: That is the type of comment that frequently--and not always incorrectly--elicits charges of bigotry or at least misguided nationalism. Obviously, I have no idea of the true nature of your real-world feelings, but the tenor of your (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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