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| | | (...) Like the BATF? I agree. (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) In your world is the BATF your worst enemy? Is that why you keep a gun under your bed? I expect you are either breaking the law, paranoid or live in a country with zero crime. Which is it? Why do you fear the BATF so much? Because they tackled (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) Just the largest and scariest. (...) Or maybe you're wrong and argumentative for no purpose. (...) He doesn't. I don't. No one does...not in a visceral ever-present way. But when you look at their ability and willingness to forego reasonable (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) They don't scare me. Should they? (...) Or maybe I am not. Maybe I work for BATF? (...) Is democracy unconstitutional? (...) I am. That is what happened in all 3 places. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) It could be. Democracy doesn't depend on a constitution per se. However, the US has a constitution that is supposed to be the prime law of the land. All other rules are subordinate and inferior to the constitution and rules that conflict with (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) The police could not move in on Randy whats-his-name for weeks/months as there were children were there - that is why they held off. Likewise with Waco, if no children were there, I think the "Feds" would have moved much sooner. Just like (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) position. You're raving. The Weavers didn't hold off the agents for any real time, and at Mt.Carmel, they didn't storm the Branch Davidians because they didn't want to die. If your logic were correct, then why did they decide to assault the (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Scott is working on perfecting the Big Lie. Repeat an untruth enough times and people tend to accept it as true. (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) So who told you your version of the Truth? Scott A (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Handgun Death Rate —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) They had them under surveillance for weeks - as they could not make a raid due to the kids. RW and his son bumped into a couple of officials/feds/cops maintaining the surveillance equipment - that is how it flared up (ie RW son & dog was shot (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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