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Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:03:46 GMT
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> > I'm very confused.
> >
> > Chris:
> > > > Neither the lion nor the wildebeest is concerned with
> > > > morality. It is an action completely without moral regard. It is therefore
> > > > amoral. But not immoral.
> >
> > Scott:
> > > I agree.
> >
> > Larry:
> > > > Sounds like you agree, then: animals are amoral.
> >
> > Scott:
> > > No, it sounds like you are puuting words in my mouth.
> >
> > Scott, please clarify. What *is* your position?
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> My position is that we should not infer human characteristics on animals. We
> should judge them by their standards - not ours.
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> > Or is it merely whatever
> > Larry is *not*?
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> Larry and I have much more in common than you would think. I expect we agree >99% of the time. The other 1% he is wrong. :-)
>
> >
> > > You "pass judgement" on others too much. Who are you to infer your moral
> > > values on others - judging them by your own standard? Do you assume you are
> > > the role model they should aspire to?
> >
> > Do you not do the same? Don't I? Doesn't Larry?
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> You missed my semi-joke, by saying to Larry "You pass judgement on others
> too much." I was passing judgement on him. I do pass judgement on others -
> but I think it is wrong of me and I do not brag about it.
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> > Don't all morally conscious
> > creatures pass moral judgement?
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> By doing so we infer our morals on them - rather conceited I think.
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> > If not, then what's the point (read use) of
> > having a moral judgement? If so, then what standard can we judge against
> > except our own?
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> The morals of the societies we live in - not our individual morals.
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> Scott A
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> > DaveE
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