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Subject:	Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:23:04 GMT
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I'm very confused. Chris: > > Neither the lion nor the wildebeest is concerned with > > morality. It is an action completely without moral regard. It is therefore > > amoral. But not immoral. Scott: > I agree. Larry: > > Sounds like you agree, then: animals are amoral. Scott: > No, it sounds like you are puuting words in my mouth. Scott, please clarify. What *is* your position? Or is it merely whatever Larry is *not*? > You "pass judgement" on others too much. Who are you to infer your moral > values on others - judging them by your own standard? Do you assume you are > the role model they should aspire to? Do you not do the same? Don't I? Doesn't Larry? Don't all morally conscious creatures pass moral judgement? If not, then what's the point (read use) of having a moral judgement? If so, then what standard can we judge against except our own? DaveE

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		Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
(...) Hah! Beautiful work, Dave! (...) Yes, Dave is right-- it seems evident here, Scott. I know you guys always disagree and you'll never convince each other to see an issue the same way so just agree to disagree. The world does not revolve around (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
(...) Thanks, Dave.I think this pretty beautifully illustrates the fundamental difference between Scott and myself, and between our debating styles. (charitably extending the term in one case) And it may illustrate why it irks me greatly when people (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
(...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
(...) No, it sounds like you are puuting words in my mouth. (...) You "pass judgement" on others too much. Who are you to infer your moral values on others - judging them by your own standard? Do you assume you are the role model they should aspire (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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