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Subject:	Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:57:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes: > I'm very confused. > > Chris: > > > Neither the lion nor the wildebeest is concerned with > > > morality. It is an action completely without moral regard. It is > > > therefore amoral. But not immoral. > > Scott: > > I agree. > > Larry: > > > Sounds like you agree, then: animals are amoral. > > Scott: > > No, it sounds like you are puuting words in my mouth. > > Scott, please clarify. What *is* your position? Or is it merely whatever > Larry is *not*? Thanks, Dave.I think this pretty beautifully illustrates the fundamental difference between Scott and myself, and between our debating styles. (charitably extending the term in one case) And it may illustrate why it irks me greatly when people equate us as well. People are always welcome to urge me to ignore him, it's great advice, but as soon as they say "and there's no difference between the two of you" they can pretty much count on my tuning them out, as they no longer have standing with me to comment on it. ++Lar

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		Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
(...) Perpetuating folly is a flaw in anyone who does it, including me. When you and Scott go at it, you are equally at fault in perpetuating the folly of arguing with someone that has given you no cause to believe they will ever see reason (as you (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
(...) If you mean you avoid the point(1), and I don't - I agree. (...) This sounds almost threatening. You must be pretty thin skinned Larry. Do you keep a little black book of all of those who "no longer have standing" with you, or do you use (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
I'm very confused. Chris: (...) Scott: (...) Larry: (...) Scott: (...) Scott, please clarify. What is your position? Or is it merely whatever Larry is not? (...) Do you not do the same? Don't I? Doesn't Larry? Don't all morally conscious (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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