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  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) ... (...) ... (...) So I've been wondering for a couple months why the state doesn't lift the dumb socialist power price caps and allow the market to do its thing. Why don't you folks just let the problem fix itself? And really, what do you (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) What? Can you imagine the screams of protest as the citizens of California had to pay the *actual* costs for both their energy and short-sitedness? No politician could endure the horror of enraged voters! Steve (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) That's something of a simplistic statement. The problem lies in that monopolistic businesses that control something that is in the vital interest of everyone in the entire state showed an apalling lack of foresight, with the bottom line of (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I heard an economic analyst on NPR sum up the California energy crisis with this analogy: You own a McDonalds. The production costs of a Big Mac has risen to $6 each, but you are forced by the government to stay in business and sell them for (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) You aren't kidding, at any sign of price increases our idiot govenor makes a big stink and forces the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to back down. Everytime they hold a meeting a bunch of morons show up to protest increasing prices. We (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Why don't a few of the allegedly-intelligent non-liberal morons show up at these meetings and do something about it? Dave! (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) California is a study in contrasts and balance. For example, if California is so liberal, how did Pete Wilson and George Deukmajin hold the governor's office for 16 straight years, with the legislature usually within a couple seats of each (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) HA! I can not see how the price for producing has risin, if they are doing what they have been doing, why would it go up??? No new plants are up, none are going up - so whats changed? If the cost of producing a big mac goes up to $6, but the (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) this (...) Have you checked the price of Gas recently. Most power is generated using fossel fuels and prices have risen sharply Lester (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) this (...) In this particular hypothetical California McDonalds, I would guess that they had to invest in power infrastructure so that they could keep the grills hot even when the grid isn't active. That kind of UPS/diesel generation system (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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