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Dave Low: (...) The thing is, I believe the Bible to be literal truth about the universe! So in that case, I never will stop believing the Bible. I believe the Bible is the word of God, written by the hands of men, under the inspiration and (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey! I'm not the apologist, I'm the vile accuser hell-bent to destroy Dr. Sagan's memory! :-) Bruce (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's pretty sage advice. Who can I Contact? Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) Perhaps this very issue, based on the testimony of one apologist who can by his own admission present no hard evidence for his claims, will result in a new religion. Saganity, perhaps. Death to the billions and billions of heretics who oppose (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heard him say it. Wasn't recorded. Doesn't mean I'm wrong or that Dr. Sagan remembered it. Gosh, you are taking this personally. Bruce (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is a good point; in terms of colonization, the Spanish had a more overtly religious tone to the economic exploitation. An interesting irony is that while the Spanish often used divine right as a justification, they also, over the course (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If aliens are anything like humans, we may be in big trouble! Dan (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hi Ryan, This isn't exactly what Selçuk asked, but it's a similar sort of question. Most scientists think about the world in terms of falsifiable theories, rather than beliefs as such. So here's my question: Under what circumstances would you (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (yawn) Sagan wrote in his book "Billions and Billions" that the phrase is not part of his speech and vocabulary. Ever the scientist, the guy even carefully researched his work, his videos and interviews to find one instance of him using that (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Having heard him say it even before Cosmos was made, I can attest he did use the phrase on occasion. Bruce (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Simple question: Was the Vatican a political and economic power during the conquest of the Americas? You know the answer. (...) You are inferring more than what I wrote. The fact remains that Christianity came down like an iron fist on the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, I think I follow you here: If you mean to say that Sagan was correctly quoted in initially using the phrase "billions and billions," then that is false. If you mean that Sagan later said "billions and billions" after the fact of being (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *sings* "We'll make great pets, we'll make great pets!" :^D ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Were I in the debate, that'd be exactly my point :) 'Course then we'd be on to defining morality which is my little pet topic, so I'd better steer clear :) (...) By my book, not *necessarily*, though I would argue that it probably was indeed (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Daniel: In the spirit of avoiding sweeping generalizations that due a disservice to one's arguments, I believe that your statements above need clarification. I'll not excuse the atrocities committed in the name of religion, but a great deal (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I minored in Geology, so most of my knowledge on the subject came from hardcore geology texts. You might want to look in used book stores for the Time-Life series on Geology. Not up-to-date, I'd imagine, but they are far more involved than an (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't you agree, however, that's a broad assumption based on an even more broad definition of sin? Keep in mind that sin is relative to a culture, not a hard and fast rule to all cultures and creatures. Eating pork is a sin for Hebrews and (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, so it's just like computer programming! :-, (...) Got it, thanks for the example. (...) I've done this, at least with World Book (I read this thoroughly when I was youger :-) and Encarta (blech) and a couple of other brands. They just (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please reconcile what you just admited he said with what I said. :-) Bruce (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, not true. Sagan was misquoted and that's just a plain fact. The only time he actually said "billions and billions" was after the misquote became a trademark (not what Sagan wanted, but what the hell) and he would say it at conferences (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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