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  Re: Problems with Darwin's theory
 
(...) For starters, that's not a fair question, and you know it. ("Why do you beat your wife?" being the classic example.) Further, I never said anything about proving creation. Please re-read. SRC (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Then we agree about (IMHO) the really important part - judging actions not intent. I highly suspect what we're debating for the rest of it is fluff and semantics. <snip examples> (...) Good examples, and a solid case for the relevance of (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Larry listens to RUSH? That's a shock ;-) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(...) I don't care how old he is. Suspension is a bit severe for pointing a piece of *POULTRY* at someone. Imagine trying to defend feeling so threatened by someone pointing a peice of (presumably boneless, even) food at you that you wanted to get a (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(...) I agree. Clearly it let *you* down somewhere along the line, at least in a minor way. :-) (Way to mess up on the too/to thingie, eric. Don't you hate it when that happens to a post you wrote? I do too. It happens too much. ) (an eric slips (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(...) Oh, Tim. That was fowl. ~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
 
  Re: Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(...) I think you're too chicken to blame the school system. (now don't get saucy with me) ;) -Tim (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
 
  Re: Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(...) DaveE (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(...) Sure, have a talk with him. Yes, discuss things and talk to him about why it's inappropriate to be casual with mock violence. Suspension is just a bit severe for an 8 year old. ~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(...) school (which is good), you are not allowed to think about a gun. Thought police. Wonderful. Yet another reason the USA's public school system is way to messed up. eric (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Let's modify it a bit: I come over to your house taking donations for the home for wayward boys. You ask about my morals. Now I say I plan to teach them the ways of Christ and bring them up as devout Christians. How much money do you give? (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Keeping Our Schools Safe
 
(URL) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Problems with Darwin's theory
 
(...) Sure it does. Ever heard of Morganucodon? Why the heck did the ossicles of your ear start to develop in your mandibula and successivly moved into your ear during your embryonal development? Because this reflects your phylogeny - the ear (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) think. :-) (...) Good question. I freely admit I may be digging myself a hole here. And judging morality of individuals, in general, isn't what I want to do. Especially as it relates to victimless crimes, etc. Recall that I've said in the past (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) I guess what I'm stumbling over is trying to figure out why you think/feel that morality has significance beyond a personal level. What is the justification/point/meaning of you judging me (or my morals)? Whether it's a personal standard or an (...) (24 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
Snipped a lot of head twisting stuff to just answer two questions, then I HAVE to get back to writing docs... more later, maybe. (...) Yes. (...) I can't accurately answer that hypothetical. It's indeterminate since I don't accept the premise and (...) (24 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Ah, ok. So what you're objecting to is specifically my method of moral judgement, instead proposing that some unspecified (at least at present) yet universal code is a better tool for judging morality, and that you have at least some inkling (...) (24 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Ok. I think that 'morality...derived from enforcement' and 'whatever you have the power to do is OK' are equivalent statements, but that's just quibbling. (...) That consequence does follow fairly directly, so I guess that's where it fails for (...) (24 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Right, I understand that concept. I just don't find it valid. Because I don't accept relative morality. (...) Yes. (...) I don't think that's what I am saying, but since I haven't provided a derivation for universal morality I guess that might (...) (24 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience
 
(...) Ah, then ok. I'm fine with that. Just so long as we make sure to clarify that the 'right' in MMR isn't a moral right. The only problem being, though, that while theoretically true, it's not the case in reality, only because human moral codes (...) (24 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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