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(...) Okaay. Thanks for that. (...) I never mentioned "politics"; in fact, I specifically mentioned culture. (...) That would be another discussion, and knock yourself out, but one word of warning-- "Protestantism" is NOT a "religion". (...) What is (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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As they say, it's always those who are the loudest that get heard, or is it that shoot their mouths off first? (URL) -Avery (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Maybe we should all convert to Islam. Then that sort of thing would never be allowed. But seriously, what exactly are you frightened of? Nothing in there is suggesting that you give up your idea of what a man is. If you are feeling threatened (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Always nice to be informed on what the malnutritioned MALE will be wearing this fall, tho! On another level, this whole discussion does say a lot about the political climate/freedoms we do enjoy, regardless what side of the fence you sit on, (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Matters on what you define as "manliness." Some forms of masculinity are rebuffed by the Left - such as not allowing women into the army (the manly-man should never have to rely on women to fight wars). You could say that the Politically (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In general. Both the conventional Right and conventional Left (in the US anyway) want to restrict choices... I think you're right, the right may be a bit more nervous about gender bending but that's small potatoes really. The quote I cited to (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) With respect to a cultural shift towards unmanliness, or in general? I mean, I haven't actually seen evidence that the Left cares one way or another in regards to the decline of masculinity, but I have seen a tendancy on the Right of general (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Guys, guys. I think John is just sickened by that terrible outfit: (URL) model for Davidelfin> This is purely a "he's wearing what?" situation not a "he's afirming his choice to what?" situation. ~Kevoh tongue -> cheek (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Would that one of the Right or Left actually DID want to allow people choice. Neither conventional end of the conventional spectrum acts like it does want that. (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) There's a lot of babble, gafla, marketspeak, posery etc, in there but is this the part you want to go to war with?? (...) If so color me scared. THAT's actually a valid notion. (19 years ago, 8-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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