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(...) But that's a disengenuous assertment. There will never be enough "data" to answer that question. It is unknowable. (...) Because there isn't or never will be any such data. The scientific method cannot explain the origin of something without (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's a false dilemma. The current (and correct) response is: "We currently don't have enough data to answer that question." (...) Suppose that one says "Current data suggests that the universe has always existed, in some form." How is that (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Just one? What are you, like Dory from "Finding Nemo"? JOHN (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Everything that exists had to come from something. Whether you want to call Event 1 "God" or just "Some Random Occurance", neither fit into the model of Science. Even if you want to say that "the universe always was", that is still beyond (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Do you care to give us all a link to this alleged beating? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote: <snip> (...) Really? Try selling that argument to a German or Japanese person-- I don't buy it. (...) You mean like turning out by the millions against, in some cases, fear of death, to vote? (...) (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How's that concrete? I'm not seeing the creation myth as at all concrete. (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's too bad, because that's what you SHOULD have said. There are a lot of ways to encourage and help people that want to be free achieve it, OTHER than charging in, guns blazing (and I'd challenge you to point out where I've been a big (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry to disappoint-- but we've already beaten that corpse to China and back. :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mmmmm. A truly American assumption that my 'prescription' was designed to change these countries to be free, but not what I was driving at. I have read it again, and I can't see that in what I said. Besides, I think its been discussed even (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) **sigh** Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't know how long this "free of FCC" will last now that they (the FCC and others) are barking at cable and satellite TV providers to be more (URL) "family friendly">, whatever that means. Adr. (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's not funny. :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "I am speaking about Creation." (...) I was referring to our conscience. The knowledge deep down of right and wrong. (...) I'm citing a book whose title eludes me. I'll see if I can find it. In the mean time, I'll accept merely 1 million out (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No. (...) On your part? Yes. JOHN (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ....do you care to expand that, or is it just more ugly unjustified name calling? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Speaking of Doom3, since we were, indeed, speaking of it-- One video game that gave me nightmares, and it wasn't the gory video or the shooting--it was the sounds... it's a very disturbing video game, even when played in 'god' mode... Dave K (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Legion of DOOM is more like it, Dave! (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Call us Legion. (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You lost me there. What's a concrete thing that science can't address? (...) Hmm? Hardwired how? Hardwired to believe in him (in spite of free will?) Or hardwired to want to believe in him? Not me. (...) Approximately one zillion things fueled (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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