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  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) No age discrimination, please. I am still never going to kick Helen Mirren out of bed given the opportunity. I don't care how old she is -- she's sexy, sophisticated, smart, and obviously knows what she is doing. Bring it, Helen!!! In the end, (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) You recall incorrectly. They were returned on Reagan's watch and there was lose of life in a botched rescue attempt. (...) Seem fine to me. (...) If you want to talk about bum raps events, I would say that GWB got the granddaddy of them all on (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) And yet he got all the hostages back whilst sticking to his 'Christian convictions' and, iirc, not firing one shot or a loss oof a life. How's Dubya's Christian convictions doing? I think Carter got a bum rap due to the events of the world--as (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) Which only goes to prove something: Carter had morals and convictions, but he was no great shakes as president. He got voted in by the religious "born again" faction, and he got voted out by the religious "born again" faction. I like him now (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) I would agree that the two situations are very different, but I would classify your unwillingness to equate the two as leftist spin. Both men were caught in large lies. Nixon was lying directly to the American people, and had he not resigned (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) I actually agree, Carter was a very respectable, honest, moral and good hearted man, he just wasn't a very effective leader. His economic plans were horrible, and his forien policy was even worse. That said, Carter is possibly the greatest (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) I doubt very seriously that the Powers That Be really would have sat on their hands if they knew 3,000 people would die. My point is that they had all the clues and they should have had a better grip on what was about to happen than they did. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) I'm personally partial to PMOY 1999, and, of course, Miss June 2003... Both for differnt reasons... Dave K (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: So we're back to school yard politics...
 
(...) And I made it thru school totally unscathed... Every teacher in grade school knew how to pronounce the last name 'cause I have 30ish cousins older than me and we all grew up in the same small town... So the regular teachers were fine--it was (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) Yeah, but he told Playboy that he had sinned in his heart. I even think I have that copy of Playboy. But, you cannot really blame people for being human beings -- and human beings tend to be serial monogomists at best. At worse, we all of us (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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