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  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) ROFL. I just hope that's not true. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: world mandate (Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace))
 
(...) You are putting words in my mouth again. (...) I was not referring to an attack. If you were, I misunderstood you. (...) A dodge? (...) You seem to be under the impression that I should jump through your hoops. I'm not trying to deceive (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing"
 
I saw his column today in the Grand Rapids Press. So I thought I'd share it with you. But of course to just cut and paste it in here is copyright infringement, not fair use, so if you want to see what he thinks, you'll have to follow a link. Here's (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) Hell, no! I AM the PINKO, ANTI-CHRIST! }:) ...okay, I admit I was just exaggerating -- I am not actually a pinko. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) If I take your meaning, then it sounds like it worked as well as any other ritual. Was each applicant also required to throw salt over his left shoulder? Dave! (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) Didn't work very well, did it? :-) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blame the Victim
 
(...) ... and here it is [it looks abridged]: (URL) has also written other reports from Argentina/ S. America; just search for her name on the site. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: world mandate (Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace))
 
<snip> (...) You are misrepresenting me. (...) That's my informed opinion. (...) <snip> (...) Yeah. Yeah. Just keep jumping to conclusions. On 911 only one country on the planet was really talking to MO. About the 1st thing Bush did when he got out (...) (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) It was either he or Truman-- no, wait, Truman was the guy who made all Federal workers swear on a stack of Bibles they aren't Communists.... Maggie C. (22 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) No truer words were ever written. The North American Game Preserve -- replete with X-Box, 17" flatscreens, downloaded porn, the boat in the drive, the BMW-Mercedes-whathaveyou parked behind it, a room full of lego... ...hey, that could be my (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) Wasn't he the "one nation, under God" guy? Dave! (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) I am refering to the majority of Americans. I get the impression that they are comfortable so they do not care. (...) Well I was thinking: privileges = lavish consumer goods and services, false sense of security, etc. principles = civil (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Former Iraqi General
 
The imperialism angle reminded me of this piece on the "Pax Americana": (URL) Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Mega Bloks M1A1 Abrams Tank
 
(...) I agree. As far as we know(1), the M1A1 hasn't been used in real combat anywhere other than desert terrain. It was designed for deployment to the tanker's paradise of Northern Europe though, right? 1 - this is an important caveat. fnord. (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) I don't think this is an accurate description at all. Americans do ACT and they often pay a much higher price than you might imagine. (...) Hmmm, I don't know this one. But if the equations are: privileges = rights (as is done in a lot of case (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) So in Iraq, the majority of people want to do something but they can not. In the US, the majority of people can do something but they do not want to. My head hurts. I guess it is as Eisenhower said: "A country that values its privledges above (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: world mandate (Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace))
 
(...) A dodge? You mean you don't want to explain your bunker-buster comment, tell us what the USA's official response to SH gassing his own people was, why you want to view Iraq in isolation or even what is “all Britain's fault”? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Idealism vs Realism?
 
(...) Yeah, that is bad. But how about imprisoned with all of your attorneys? (URL) about jailed without bail, right to an atty, or the possibility of a writ of habeas corpus? I'll leave it to Larry P. to provide the cites should the need arise (you (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Mega Bloks M1A1 Abrams Tank
 
(...) You know, now that I think about it, has the M1A1 been used in combat anywhere *except* desert terrain? Regardless of Desert Storm Part Deux, I suppose a case could be made for sand camo as the "default" color for that kit. Tamiya's had a nice (...) (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build.military)
 
  Former Iraqi General
 
Unfortunatly it looks like the link wraped so copying and pasting will be nessecary. (URL) interesting article. Especially considering he recognizes Bush's real motivation. -Mike Petrucelli (22 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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