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  Re: "The Roots of Muslim Rage"
 
(...) He's half right. This *is* an internal Muslim issue, but the (technically non Muslim, by many interpretations of the Koran) radicals have forfeited the right for it to remain solely internal. They are going to get some outside interference (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Big bad greedy US capitalists exploiting the world
 
(...) How did you do that? Directly? Too bad. You *missed* the point. The point is that you cost the Red Cross more (as a percentage of your donation) if you donate directly than if you donate via Yahoo or Amazon or MSN... every donation takes some (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Debunk this?
 
(...) Nope, I didn't have anything else to direct at you. You answered my question honestly, it's not debunkable. I appreciate that. Thanks Dan. (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Big bad greedy US capitalists exploiting the world
 
(...) Thanks for posting this. I know there was some talk about a Lugnet community fund raiser type event, but it didn't get much response. I think at this time, people just want to straight out make an immediate donation. There's a celebrity (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  "The Roots of Muslim Rage"
 
Another cite. I got this one from Slate -- it's an article by Bernard Lewis that was published in the Atlantic Monthly a while ago. (URL) the whole thing, but I'd like to quote from the last two paragraphs: "THE movement nowadays called (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Big bad greedy US capitalists exploiting the world
 
(...) Congratulations people! I donated to Red Cross, which doesn't look like it's part of this organisation, but the more the better! However I think it's a bit of a leap to imply this proves Big bad greedy US capitalists are *not* exploiting the (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Debunk this?
 
(...) Well, I'm not sure where you're going with this, Larry. The Israelis have done the exact same things to foreign journalists, you know that. Even America has censored journalists, such as those covering American sponsored massacres in Central (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thinking Out Loud...
 
(...) No. (...) follow. Something else entirely. We don't know what they actually did. Did they attack them with weapons? Unlikely. One report I heard said they used cushions to shield themselves while charging the hijackers. Maybe some of them (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Big bad greedy US capitalists exploiting the world
 
NOT. (URL) one here really has remarked on this much, but Yahoo and Amazon are powering the donation machines behind the icons that a lot of sites (including the ones I control) are displaying. This org was mentioned in the President's speech just (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The *militia* saved flight 93 from a worse fate...
 
(...) For a while, anyway. Until the "general militia" gets apathetic again (which may take many years). (...) we (...) 7,000 (...) By all reports, the decision made by the passengers of flight 93 was only made after they found out there were more (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thinking Out Loud...
 
(...) Care to elaborate on that? Are you saying that they didn't attack the attackers, or are you saying that to do so is a pacifistic act, or something else entirely? I'm not sure I follow. Thanks. (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thinking Out Loud...
 
(...) You don't know whether they were or not. (...) I'd also like to support that, but I don't think your politicians would take much notice of me 8?( ROSCO (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The *militia* saved flight 93 from a worse fate...
 
(...) This is exactly why we will never see this particular form of attack again. Prior to this attack Pilots and crew had been taught that in a hijacking situation the best way to insure their own safty and the safty of the passangers was to do as (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Still more perspectives on the tragedy
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Horst Lehner writes: [snipped] Horst, I also need to spend some more time reading this. I think this is the kind of review / opinion that politicians[1] need to read, maybe you should consider sending a copy to your (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thinking Out Loud...
 
(...) Flight 93. Thank *all that is worth living for* that the heroes on board that flight *weren't* pacifists. Would any of us have had the courage to do what they did, knowing that it meant almost certain death, in order to save the country from a (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Company of heros
 
This one got me crying pretty bad. You've been warned. (URL) reading though. (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thinking Out Loud...
 
(...) This one is easy... First you have the origional WTC Bombing (not directly tied to bin Laden). Second you have the two bombings at the US embassies in Africa (tied to bin Laden) Third you have the attack on the USS Cole (also tied to bin (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Debunk this?
 
This seems to have sort of slipped away from discussion... (URL) wonder if Scott A. or Daniel J. might be able to debunk this for me? (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Still more perspectives on the tragedy
 
(...) You don't gotta beg. No one else does. :-) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The *militia* saved flight 93 from a worse fate...
 
Here is an op-ed sure to make some folks foam... (URL) not me... This writer *gets* what the militia is. (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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