 | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Todd Lehman
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| | | (...) If the seller uses offers to solicit progressively higher offers, it's an auction. If the offers stay independent of one other, it's not an auction. (SBA's and OBO's aren't true auctions in the spirit of what makes an auction an auction.) (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Cary Clark
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| | | | | And, the argument is summarized in the FAQ too: (URL) Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G4qJtM.82t@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) it (...) (or (...) that (...) auction. (...) auction (...) even (...) scarf is (...) up) (...) selling (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Paul Rutenberg
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| | | | Hello Todd Sorry you see it that way, but i don't, a sealed bid is a normal item used by the biggesat auction houses in the world, both Sotheby's and Christies use it, they are just called sealed bid auctions and not O.B.O.s. To me its just a let me (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Paul, I suggest you let it go. In the larger scheme of things, you're right. But you're not going to convince Todd, he's constructed what he feels is a very reasonable justification for a definition that allows single round sealed bid auctions (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Paul certainly is right: SBA's and OBO's are the same thing. (...) No, I haven't. I never have said that single-round sealed-bid auctions were the same as, or equivalent to, or even remotely the same as, straight sales. I _have_ been trying to (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) No they're not! Not in the LUGNET namespace they aren't... They're named differently, and thus are not in the same equivalence class when partitioned by the partitioning function "allowed in market.buy-sell-trade?". The fact that this is their (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | | | | (...) They are two names for the same concept, i.e. "thing". Therefore, they *are* the same thing. If one person calls you Lar and another Mr. P, that doesn't make Lar and Mr. P different people. Also, the groups do not form a partition. SBA/OBO is (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm not sure I agree. Please conduct the following (thought?) experiment, then... post a SBA/OBO (for the same thing) to both groups, and in buy-sell-trade, label it SBA, fully delineating the definition Todd posted so there can be no doubt (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | (...) Actually he just admitted it. From dictionary.com: stub·born (stbrn) adj. stub·born·er, stub·born·est. Characterized by perseverance; persistent. :-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: FS-Pirate & Town Sets Mint In Sealed Boxes/Pack —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) Yup -- exactly! SBA's and OBO's are simply two different names for the same thing. SBA's are perfectly welcome in .market.auction and OBO's are perfectly welcome in .market.buy-sell-trade. (...) There isn't any difference. --Todd (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
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