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RE: Floor plan
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Wed, 26 May 1999 22:10:24 GMT
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Hi Tom,
The real challenge is to balance accessibility with damage control.
I like your layout
____________________________
|Sale area | Secure Area|
|-------- ---- +-----+|
| \_|Train||
|Technic |Train||
| Bricks +-----+|
Door on a Hands|
| Blanket Hands|
| Disp|
|TV/VCR |
| |
|__Dr____Nohands Dsply___Dr__|
better than my first one, it makes sense to have the secure areas adjacent
to each other.
Maybe we should switch the hands display area with the no-hands area to get
it all of the "no hands" areas adjacent. Now I've come around to more like
your first layout! With this layout, (below) the trains could run though the
no-hands display. And would put many kids playing with stuff/hands on
displays in front of the windows. Maybe we need 2 train setups, one for
handling, one no hands? We (Zonker?) could build a bullet proof engine, and
some basic cars and a bunch of empty "flats" that we/kids could build
superstructures/loads for at the meet. It could even be a contest, best
site built car, etc.
A room layout suggestion maybe like:
____________________________
|Sale area | Secure Area|
|-------- ---- +-----+|
| \_|NoHds||
|Technic |Train|| \
| Bricks +-----+| Mix these two together?
Door on a No | /
| Blanket Hands|
| Disply|
|TV/VCR |
| Hds Hds Hds |
|__Dr__Dsply_Trn_Dsply___Dr__|
Do you think there is enough room between the front doors? We could use the
tables to control access by making the hands-on area into a big "W" out of 6
tables, like:
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with trains on the 2 tables in the middle, and hands-on displays with chairs
on the two "bottom" tables, with nothing on the outer wings of the W,
closest to the doors.
We also need some signs by the doors to remind people not to take Lego out
of the room, and better signage as to the club literature/handouts, put it
on every table?
Sample Table count:
Hands-on Displays & Train 6 (4 if we eliminate the 2 ears on the "W"
Bricks on Blanket 2?
No Hands Displays & Train 4-6?
Secure 1
TV/VCR 1
Technic 2
Sale 1-2?
TOTAL 15-25 WOW!
I'm not sure if we should have the bricks on a blanket on the floor, or on
tables, or both? Some think the floor gets pretty hard after a while!
It would be nice to have more displays in general, and more organized at the
next meeting.
I'd like to see (at least) one from each major theme, Pirates, Castle, Model
Team, Aquazone, Adventurers, and maybe 2 each from
technic/town/space/Starwars, split about evenly between hands and no-hands.
That's why I brought the pirate ship, there were no pirates at all at the SF
meet. Not much Castle this time. \
Now maybe we should just mirror the hands-on layout in the back for the
no-hands/secure area, and use the "W" layout across the back wall as well,
and move the sale table to the middle of the side wall..... What do you
think?
Maybe one of the things the club buys is insurance/compensation against show
losses!
Maybe we should integrate Technic with the two display areas (hands/no
hands) and not have it separate? Comments?
Some more ideas for discussion.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com]On Behalf
Of Tom McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 11:38 AM
To: lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf@lugnet.com
Subject: Re: Floor plan
In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, Mark Benz writes:
> Sorry, I don't have an easy way to mod your diagram but see below.
> I don't see a particular advantage to having a separate members door,
> especially if we have an hour of "closed meeting/trading" before opening to
> the public.
I thought that more security would promote more MOC's. That's all really.
> Lets be as "open" as possible. Also, if we do the "closed"
> session, we should adjust our advertised open times accordingly.
Sounds good to me.
> Outsiders might be interested in trading/buying our extra stuff after the
> "members trading time".
Hmm. Hadn't thought of that.
> We should put the more impressive (Technic shuttle, hands-off displays?
> etc.) stuff nearer the front so people who walk by are intrigued. (sp)
I would suggest some sort of readily-indentifiable barrier for this. I make
this suggestion in remembrance of Joe Greene's shuttle gear box that was
nearly
pried open.
> I don't think you should "wall off" the trains with the other tables. I
> like the idea of a 9 volt power source though to limit speeds.
I'm not lobbying really hard for this, but suggesting it anyway cuz it's a
compromise: what if we have the train extend from the hands-on zone into
the secure zone? I'm thinking this would combine the best of both worlds in
case members want to display models by the train. Those that want to have
their
stuff playable can make it so, while others (like paranoid me :) can still
have
their stuff be seen by the train but not accessible.
> If we assume the desired activity/presentation "zones" are (arbitrary
> names):
>
> Play/bricks/building, hands on (2 tables into a square, w/mat?, many chairs
> all around)
> Hands-on Displays (linear tables?, a few chairs) Our airport is in this
> category.
> View-only Displays, no hands (linear, square, or U? see below. no chairs)
> (Fred's space ships?)
> Trains, some hands? (could be with or adjacent to or between(!) the two
> displays connecting them?) some chairs?
> Trade/Sale (linear (better?) or square (walk-around?), no chairs)
> Technic, hands on, chairs
>
> Kind of Like:
> ___________________________
> |Secure area Sale Area|
> | |
> | Hands|
> |Technic Disp|
> | Trains|
> Door Bricks Trains|
> | Hands|
> |TV/VCR Disp|
> | |
> |__Dr__Nohands Dsply__Dr__|
I like this floorplan too. Assuming the above "compromise" was agreed to,
what
if we modified it to something like this:
____________________________
|Sale area | Secure Area|
|-------- ---- +-----+|
| \_|Train||
|Technic |Train||
| Bricks +-----+|
Door on a Hands|
| Blanket Hands|
| Disp|
|TV/VCR |
| |
|__Dr____Nohands Dsply___Dr__|
The "secure" line would perhaps cross approx at the middle of the train
layout.
> We should also come up with a layout for only half of the room, in case we
> can't get it all next time.
Good idea. But then maybe we might want another room?
> If you don't want your sets/creations handled, (crushed, disassembled,
> dropped, etc.)put them in the no-hands zone. Members could rotate assigned
> times to watch them. The only real no-hands zone is the "no hands displays"
> Duh.
> For no-hands areas, arrange 3 tables into U's. That way people could
> chaparone from the middle etc.
Good idea.
> I think the train table(s) should be at least as big as last time's maybe • in
> an O shape? Operators in the center?
Definitely as big or bigger. Operators in the center, or separate the tables
from the wall and sit behind the table.
> The Play/open bricks area/tables should not be in the far back. But not so
> close to the door that they all walk out. How about in the center?
All sounds good. I'll post your suggestion to the site when I get a chance.
-Tom McD.
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