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(...) Does the "Cool Kids" section profile only the amazing kids or does it also profile the average or below-average kid? What makes one kid more amazing or cool than another? I thought LEGO was about using your imagination and creativity and not (...) (24 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) The Cool Kids area profiles kids who reflect the LEGO values: creativity, inspiration and construction. It is meant as a departure point for our audience - a place where they will come and be inspired to be active and interested in a wide area (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) Were other, less psychologically loaded alternatives like "Cool Stuff" or "Cool Clicks" or "Cool Tips" ever considered? Labeling someone a "Cool Kid" (which you do several times on your pages) is something you (collective you -- The LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) I can see a problem with the specific word "cool" (if it means the same thing today that it did 20 years ago). I certainly was not "cool" when I was 8, but that meaning does not fit the context of the LEGO page. The page doesn't give any (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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Kevin Loch wrote in message ... (...) same (...) when (...) I suspect (though I don't know*) that giving an alternative interpretation to "cool" was part of the intent. (Actually kids around here don't say "cool" now: they say "Sweeet!" instead). (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) I'd like to make a comment about the Build.com section which is a little bit off-topic, but which is, I feel, nonetheless germaine. Part of me has a problem with the section where people can vote for their favorite fan MOC; I just don't think (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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James Simpson wrote in message ... (...) competition (...) that what (...) the Lego (...) rather than (...) is (...) actions. I totally agree. I put on a couple of "Lego shows" at my daughter's school - kids brought their own creations in and we put (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, James Simpson writes: ... (...) At first, my own reaction to your comment was "Well, then, maybe they could split it into adults, teenagers and children, or beginner and expert categories". Until I read the rest of what you (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Kevin Loch writes: <SNIP> (...) I think this is what needs to be done, us adults can say what we think all we want, and be 100% wrong. I would be interested as to the feedback outside of Lugnet to this "cool kids" section. I (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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No offense but, for cripes sake man... In lugnet.lego.direct, Todd Lehman writes: [...] (...) [...] (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) Sorry, but I actually couldn't be more serious by those questions. I think TLC is making a huge blunder on the name of that. Unless, of course, if it's marketing driven and they're aware of it, in which case maybe it's good for their bottom (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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Ah well, as long as this debate is...er... good for the community ;) -- Erin (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) I think it's the special-kid/not-special-kid aspect that rubs me the wrong way rather than the precise meaning of the word "cool." (...) When LEGO Direct announced the area[1], it was described as being "profiles of amazing kids." Now, I don't (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) <snip> Yes, that's a very germane comment, and not really off-topic at all! You'll be glad to know that we consider the current Builders Gallery contest to be just a modest start, much like the rest of the Build section. We have plans and (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) [...] (...) (URL) here: (URL) being the producer for Cool Kids, probably did a much better job of succinctly describing her project than I did in my four-word blurb, quoted above. I mentioned it as another example of a "cross-product-line" (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) I think you gave pretty good reasons. Probably would have been better to call it something like "kids doing cool things" or something like that, to avoid the implication that some kids are cool and some aren't. And if the model selection is (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) While I do think some underdog voting would be lost by keeping the percentages under wraps I think it on balance would be beneficial to do that. As I said in an off-topic.debate post in response to one of Todd's, I think the model of how Todd (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I jumped on you for insulting Suzanne (it wasn't the first time, and you know darn well what I'm talking about), for insulting our intelligence, for questioning our integrity, for acting with an egregiously pompous attitude (once again), and I (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3af8669a.240866...net.com... (...) Someone else brought this up before (I forget who), but I don't think the site is saying 'these are the only cool kids,' or 'if you're not up here, you're (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) But ther *are* special kids! My parents told me I was special when I was a kid. Of course every parent should do that from time to time because all kids are special and amazing in their own way. Wether it's a parent, LEGO or their friends, (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> Nicely proving my point, thanks... What I viewed as helpful questions and a desire for clarification you viewed as meddling. Right now, probably, someone inside TLC is no doubt saying to him or (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) Your motive, as always, is to prove to yourself that you are smarter than everyone around you. (...) The difference being: I haven't been asked to knock it off. And if I am asked to knock it off because I'm upsetting or insulting them (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) Good post Tim, IMHO there is nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition, in fact I think it is essential in many ways otherwise kids are going to be in for a big shock when they leave the nest and enter the real world. Ok, so it's only (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) Moreover seeing Jennifer doing better than you can be very motivating. Right I'm off to order a video encoder card, I put the side skirts on my tank last night and it's looking brilliant and need it's own web site. I'm sure it'll at least put (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Courtney writes: <snip> (...) Good post, good point, good debate fodder, Tim. I'm ambivalent, I do think that maybe "cool kids" may be a bit TOO judgemental... but dodgeball (I was always picked last and usually out first (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) lol, was it me? ( (URL) ). My post there says what I would have posted here. (...) Good point! Basically, the core of it is the same thing? Even has the 'cool' part. I can not recall many (note: I said recall, not saying there has not been) (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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(...) I think it must happen some, yes, and that's a probably a downside. CLSotW isn't specifically marketed at masses of kids, though, so I'm not too worried. (...) The competitive nature of the area is there regardless of the name. I don't have (...) (24 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3afb4206.117264...net.com... (...) Ok, I think I get it now. I don't have as big of a problem with the name as you do, but I see your point. -Tim (24 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (can this get any more blue-sky and ridiculous?)
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(...) Oh? And who recovers from bad feelings faster, adults or children? If you think adults, you need to rethink it. The older a person gets, the easier it seems to be to retain and intensify bad (or good, luckily) emotions. i.e., Lugnet can (...) (24 years ago, 12-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm intrigued by that. Where did you read that? (...) If it was called "Cool AFOLs" then I would agree with you. --Todd (24 years ago, 13-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read? Were you never a kid? Have you never watched kids? In the vast majority of cases, young children will change from crying like the world is coming to an end to laughing in seconds. Adults? Hardly. Do you have to READ something somewhere (...) (24 years ago, 13-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I meant where did you read it as in what brought you to that conclusion? I'm intrigued by your viewpoint because in my experience with people it isn't the case. I've met my share of embittered adults, but I've always assumed they started down (...) (24 years ago, 13-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do agree with you that the label is potentially damaging. But then, a lot of things are potentially damaging. This one may be small beer, compared to some other stuff. I imagine there are some (in the viewing audience, at TLC, etc...) that (...) (24 years ago, 14-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not at all. You're the one that is setting the standard here (for TLG, while ignoring it yourself). Personally, I think you take this WAY too seriously. Kids shouldn't be coddled so much. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay (...) (24 years ago, 14-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A bit of history here might help... "Cool LEGO Site of the Week" was named that back in 1996 when there were tons and tons of "Cool Abcdefg (type) of the Wxyz (timeframe)" sites popping up all over the Web. I think the first site was "Cool (...) (24 years ago, 14-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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