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    Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
   (...) Assuming you care whether brickshelf is around or not, do you have another solution that Kevin can take under consideration? Now's your chance. (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
   
        Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
   (...) Whether or not I care that brickshelf is around or not has absolutely no bearing on whether it will actually be around or not. (...) LOL. Do you seriously think I should? (...) I'm not joining any campaigns. Just waiting for all the facts (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
   
        Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
   (...) Understood. But if you are not a brickshelf user, then me asking you your opinion about the $5/month is like me asking you what color pants I should wear tomorrow. (...) How do I know? It never hurts to ask. (...) Kevin made the point that (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
   
        Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Ted Godwin
     (...) What point was that? That a single individual can control so much of the online LEGO world? That as the sole owner and operator of a web service of huge importance to the AFOL community he has neither tact nor the ability to communicate? That (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX) ! 
    
         Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
       "Tedward" <tgodwin@victoriaSPA...OCK.tc.ca> wrote in message news:JLHGzI.o6C@lugnet.com... (...) That Brickshelf is unique, needed and valuable, but it costs money to run. Hopefully, we learned something about of the how valuable Brickshelf is to (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Ted Godwin
      (...) I have never said anything about the money aspect. The amount is a little high when Flickr allows unlimited use for $25/yr but that is not the main problem. The only thing clear is that this person cannot be trusted with such a crucial role in (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)  
     
          Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
      (...) The ingratitude is staggering, Ted. That "crucial role" was created by that person. Brickshelf, the institution, is what it is today because of Kevin's generosity and commitment to it for the past ten years. (...) That spurious comment would (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
     
          Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
       (...) Brickshelf became what it is in no small part because of the thousands of people uploading content. Kevin is merely providing the real estate. Why are you surprised that people feel invested in it, and somewhat betrayed by these events? (...) (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX) ! 
      
           Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
       (...) I knew somebody would offer that argument. Sure, Brickshelf depends upon content, but if Brickshelf weren't around, that content would be scattered across the net, unseen by most. "Merely providing the real estate" Are you serious!? That (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Leonard Hoffman
        (...) (emphasis added) A slight correction: many of us felt upset because being denied to other people's content. I don't use BrickShelf to store my photos online, I use it to keep track of all the amazing MOCs out there. Are you suggesting I am (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
       
            Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
        (...) No. But I'm struggling with the term "betrayed". People felt understandably upset about losing a wonderful resource like Brickshelf, but the only way I could make sense of that word would be in the context in which I spoke. (...) No (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
       (...) I'm grateful that brickshelf exists, but I still don't see why that should give him a free pass for pulling a stunt like he did. It's simply bad business practice. If that's how he wants to run his business, that's fine, but I won't be a (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX) ! 
      
           Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Adrian Drake
       (...) Maybe the plan was to cause a mass exodus from brickshelf to other services, in order to lower the bandwidth cost and make it manageable. If so, it certainly is likely to work. More power to brickshelf staying alive. It would be sad to see it (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
     
          Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Ted Godwin
      (...) Actually I have to disagree with you there. The crucial role BS has come to occupy is as an intersection point connecting LUGNET, MOCPages, Blogs, Classic-Castle, EuroBricks, BrickWiki and the dozens of other websites that have chosen (by (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
     
          Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
      (...) Exactly! So, if someone doesn't come along and offer 100s of hours of personal time and $1000s of personal income to create a place like Brickshelf, it never happens, and the community never becomes what it is today. (...) Life is uncertain. I (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
    
         Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Richie Dulin
      (...) Yes. Such a consortia of AFOLs is sure to provide the community with ongoing peace of mind. Cheers Richie Dulin (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
    
         Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —James Trobaugh
      (...) I do know this guy (Kevin) and he's a stand up guy. You I don't know, so if you don't trust Kevin then fine, if you don't want to pay for the use of Brickshelf then don't. Who gives a flying flip what you do, I sure don't. (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
    
         Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —James Trobaugh
     (...) I do know this guy (Kevin) and he's a stand up guy. You I don't know, so if you don't trust Kevin then fine, if you don't want to pay for the use of Brickshelf then don't. Who gives a flying flip what you do, I sure don't. (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
   
        Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
   (...) Who said I'm not? (...) You didn't ask my opinion of the fee. You should wear red pants. (...) I think the word I'd use there in place of 'brilliant' is 'cunning'. (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 

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