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Re: So few threads...
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lugnet.general
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Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:01:31 GMT
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jsproat@geocities.IHATESPAMcom
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Todd Lehman wrote:
> Say, how did you define "thread" there? Did you go by the existance of
> "References:" headers? Or did you also count a new thread each time the
> subject (minus the Re:) changed? How about when discussions migrate out
> of a group?
Actually, I got the number of threads just by counting the number of thread
lines in my nntp client's "thread view". I'm assuming that Netscape
Collabra defines the start of a thread as either a message which has no
References: header, or a message that has a References: header for a
different newsgroup.
Migrations out of a group, hmmm... I didn't take that into consideration
(and I wouldn't care to do the homework right now :-) but I would venture to
say that these would start new threads, depending upon your point of view.
(1)
> In lugnet.general, Steve Bliss writes:
> > On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:30:51 GMT, Sproaticus <jsproat@geocities.com> wrote:
> > > I guess this shows that for the .debate and .org.ldraw groups, discussion
> > > is pretty focused; while on .cad and .general, there's a wider variety of
> > > conversations going on.
> > I'd suggest the messages/thread ratio suggests just the opposite: in
> > low-ratio groups, threads tend to stay on-topic, while in long-thread
> > groups, the conversations wander every which-way.
> I think it suggests both. :) The stuff in the .off-topic groups of course
> have a way of wandering all over the map, but the discussions in .org.ldraw
> have so far been super-focused to the group's purpose. The relatively low
> message-to-thread ratio in .general may also be due to threads starting
> there and migrating elsewhere...?
I'm playing with the idea of putting together a kind of analysis tool, using
the News::NNTPClient Perl module, which would tally this kind of info.
I'm actually wondering about several statistics, like deepest thread (by
message count :-), widest thread, skinniest thread (not sure how to define
that one), largest thread by kb, largest thread by message count, most
prolific poster, starting-most-threads poster, ending-most-threads poster,
etc. With Names Attached. You know, really nasty stuff for gossiping
purposes. :-,
But writing such a tool would require time, which I am in dire need of now.
One of those back-burner projects, I guess. I'll put it with the DAT2VRML
filter I'm also planning (2), and fixing my garbage disposal which I have
put off for too long (3).
Cheers,
- jsproat
1. To quote Obi-Wan :-P
2. Which should be relatively easy, using the modules Math::MatrixReal and
VRML. IMHO it would be tres cool serving VRML-ized DAT files from LUGNET,
for those who don't want to bother viewing plain ol' DAT files...
3. Do not, reapeat, do *NOT* try to crush gravel in yours. Nor should you
allow punky nephews to try the same without a baseball bat within your
reach.
--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@geocities.com>
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5249/
Don't blame me, I voted for Palpatine
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| <Other interesting words snipped> (...) I'd probably end up with the Ends thread nomination... I seem to have a good knack at that stuff... (...) Ummm better gravel than lego though don't you think??? at least I do :) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) Cool statistics, Jeremy! Say, how did you define "thread" there? Did you go by the existance of "References:" headers? Or did you also count a new thread each time the subject (minus the Re:) changed? How about when discussions migrate out of (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.general)
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