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Re: Technic, what happened to the good old days?
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Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:38:43 GMT
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In lugnet.dear-lego, Richard Nock wrote:
> In lugnet.dear-lego, Allan Porter wrote:
> > Hi all me again. Earlier in the week I posted this:
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> > > No new pieces to get exited about. I'm not talking about new lift arms, existing
> > > pieces in new colours or a new way to connect two pneumatics end to end (from
> > > 2005's XXL crane). I'm talking about those pieces that give you increased
> > > functionality. The functionalty of the 8880 supercar was made possible bacause
> > > of the numerous new elements it had. Some may argue that the cost of designing
> > > new elements may be prohibitive. However TLG design and manufacture numerous new
> > > parts every year (flexible axles and corrugated tubing, fairings, the whole
> > > bionicle line, etc), so why don't they design some new parts that enforce the
> > > idea of the technic range (the idea of technic being functionality, not just
> > > looks). This new tow truck model would be great if it had spline shafts and a
> > > differential with a crown gear on it and one or two other new elements to give
> > > it live axles and suspention. Last years XXL crane was good (one of the best
> > > things being the peice count) but it would be so much better with one long
> > > pneumatic instead of the two short ones. And even an extra long one for
> > > extending the boom and using the motor to rotate the crane instead. And those
> > > new pieces described earlier being used again to give it live axels and
> > > suspention too. DROOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
> > >
> > > I wonder what new technic components the people of lugnet would like to see.
> > > Parts for a helicopter that enable the blades to tilt in all directions and
> > > change pitch in a sleek and compact design (and with little friction to make
> > > life easier for a motor) maybe. Or a rotary pneumatic actuator. Power steering
> > > parts perhaps. I would really like the syncromesh gears done in all the sizes of
> > > the normal gears and a couple of well designed components that allow you to
> > > mount the gear stick anywhere and with smooth gear changes like the 8880
> > > (changing gears in the super street sensation was horrible).
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> > Well I have posted some pictures on brickshelf of the synchromesh gears and
> > differencial with a crown gear. There is some other new parts I'de like to see
> > lego put into production.
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=196086
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> I could not agree with you any more Allan. To be honest i lost interest after
> the barcode truck - the models after it did not give me the urge to race down
> toys r us with money ;).
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> Technic needs new pieces, perhaps more realistic gearbox parts so a more gearbox
> like action can be attained, anti roll bar pieces, real shock absorbers (with no
> spring) or shock absorbers with removable springs so you can design your own
> suspension system or use ready made. McPherson strut pieces? Leaf spring pieces?
> pneumatic brake cylinders, shoes with felt and drums, callipers with pads (felt
> lined) and little discs? the list goes on.
>
> Lego needs to release a COOL car like the Daytona but better :). Remote control
> with a gearbox 4 wheel drive and 4 wheel steering. I know someone who could and
> is doing something similar - so why cant lego!
I really like all these ideas i think there are plenty of ideas hear and in this
and other similar threds to keep the technic line fresh for years.
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> The trouble is technic sometimes seems to try to compete with other market areas
> at the same time, meaning the models look prettier to the mass public (uglier to
> me lol) at a loss of functionality.
You have raised a very good point. Technic is trying to compete with other
market areas by sometimes mearly looking nice (silver champion, towtruck from
2006). However the fuctionality of the models suffer. The market is flooded with
toys that look cool but do very little so why don't they keep ahead of the
compitition by making a model that looks cool but have its main focus on
functionality, complexity and creating new possibilities with new parts (LONGER
PNEUMATICS, MANY NEW GEARBOX PARTS, ELECTRICALLY OPERATED PNEUMATIC SWITCHES,
LEAF SPRINGS, LIVE AXLE COMPONENTS INC SPLINE SHAFTS, REALISTIC HELICOPTER
CYCLIC AND COLLECTIVE COMPONENTS, ROTARY PNEUMATIC ACTUATORS, BRAKES, CLUTCH,
ETC,ETC,ETC,ETC,ETC) to make it truly unique and much much better.
> Also the red Supercar, i dislike the flexible tubing and fairings, wings and
> ready made shell parts etc. Lego was about part re usability where possible (a
> beam can be a chassis leg, or a bit of wing, like the Daytona a Superb set), i
> cant exactly use a red plastic fairing in a chassis can I?
The supercar mk2 could definately benifit from having a more realistic and
smoother way of changing gears.
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> Also the forced use of the studless beams does get me down. Don't get me wrong
> studless is good for some things, like crane booms. Studded technic beams in my
> opinion are easier and nicer to work with when building complex gearbox's and
> chassis's.
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> Put it this way i cant see the daytona supercar's chassis with all those
> geartrains easily being done with studless ;).
>
> Things have their benefits and disadvantages - i wish lego would use studded
> beams where it was suited rather than insisting on studless.
Very well said
>
> I will say something tho - after years of being stubborn and staying with stuff
> i had up to the barcode truck and buying second hand from 97 and before, i have
> just purchased the NXT set - having great fun :) - and i intend on purchasing
> the new bulldozer if it is true, and perhaps the pneumatic mobile crane :).
The bulldozers new parts look ok. The mobile crane is pretty good because of
it's size and peice count but don't expect lots of complexity and only expect a
very very few useful new parts.
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