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Hi everyone, As you know, the bulk bricks online survey is now over. The results have been submitted to the LEGO company for them to digest. As many of you have expressed an interest in the results, Jake has given me permission to publish a set of (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego) !!
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(...) Thank you for posting the 'top 20' parts. A very interesting list, most of them are basic bricks, plates or slopes. Hopefully The LEGO Company will use this data to better understand the AFOL market! One more question, Richard: How many people (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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The survey seems to say "bring back #5216 roof bricks and the red one, plus grey 2x2 tiles (alas)." Something we can agree on anyway. Only a few items stake out new ground for bulk. Or more colors of the mixed roof and tile packs we have now. -Erik (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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"John Gerlach" <gmltc_j1@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HyAG8o.24ov@lugnet.com... (...) of them (...) AFOL (...) Hi John, We had a total of 61497 part/color submissions from 839 unique users. This means an average of 73 part/colors (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yeah, I have to say I really liked those roof packs. In retrospect I'm not sure what the best approach to this survey was. When I was picking bricks, I tried to make sure that I picked things I would order bunches of. But concave/convex slopes (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'm interested to hear peoples opinions on why 1x2 bricks are so high. (As opposed to 1x4, 1x6 etc.). Personally I find the slightly longer bricks more valuable. Jeff (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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Shoot - None of mine made it. I put in a bunch of strange bricks, including odd windows, doors, and panels. I guess everyone else wanted mainly basic bricks because that is what the survey seems to show. (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Keep in mind that I mostly build castle MOCs: I prefer building castle walls with bricks rather than with the castle wall pieces. I try to avoid plain, flat walls, so I find 1x1, 1x2, 1x3, and 1x4 bricks the most useful. In such cases, there (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Sayyy, Richard: Any indication of how many people submitted surveys? I'm really curious as to how large the sample size ended up being. all best LFB (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) wonder how red creeped in. But the parts types results completely baffle me. For every 2x2 concave steep slope and just about every item on the list, I use 100s of 2x4s. The list seems to reflect demand based on scarcity, not demand based on (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I agree that the results indicate a huge desire for roof bricks. However, if the assorted roof brick packs are revived, I think TLG needs to re-think the part assortment in those packs. I managed to get 30 of the 5216 black roof bricks when (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) What amazes me is that only 839 users participated. I expected a lot more, something like 5000 or so. But then again, I cannot relate the 839 to anything, I dont have a clue as to how it represents the AFOL community. (How big is the AFOL (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I think some of the surprise in the list may be due to people's understanding of the purpose of the survey. Was it - pieces in addition to what S@H currently sell or - pieces you need I voted on the basis of already knowing what S@H sell and (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Richard- Could you tell us how many participants there were in this survey (just out of curiosity)? Thanks! -jeremy pnltc <www.pnltc.org> (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) (URL) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I am not Richard, but he said, upthread: "We had a total of 61497 part/color submissions from 839 unique users. This means an average of 73 part/colors submitted per user. It might have been a little more if we hadn't had the early problems (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Me too. I can get all the 1x2s and 2x4s I want for under 2 cents a piece (with judicious shopping for tubs) but nary a piece I selected made the list (train doors, train windows, train door rails, town windows, and architectural elements) So (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) This is probably because, out of 20 choices, one or more colors of 1x2 were selected but no one particular color was outstanding. I put in tan, new brown, new light gray, orange, and medium blue for most 1x2 and 1x4 - there are a lot of colors (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure I'd characterise 2 windows and one mullion out of 20 as "feature prominently", (on the "any color" list, the other one doesn't matter as much) but OK (...) I am not complaining. (...) You could pick up to 10 colors so I really (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Ditto. I was really hoping for some of the large windshields, curved slope bricks, & wing plates. Jeff (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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"BrikTrak.com" <rjmorton@AT4imprintNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:HyAFw6.21ox@lugnet.com... (...) me (...) the (...) Maybe it's just me but I find some of the results of the survey very odd. In particular, I am surprised that 1x1, 1x2, 1x4, and (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Train elements topped my list too, and it's too bad you couldn't weight your vote, because everything else I voted for would have been much lower on my list. Various train windows & doors, town windows & doors, slopes, and some plant elements (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) ya, except the weighting I'd prefer would be "put your customer number in, OK we found how much you spent at S@H last year... that's what each of your votes is worth" :-) And I'd be Ok with the fact that my votes weren't worth the most. (Hi (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I have to agree with this one... the "put your money where your mouth is" theory. I know your purchases far outweigh mine... but I know I've put some serious chunck change into Shop@Home, myself. Ben M. (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Besides other parts, I voted heavily on 1x2 and 1x4 bricks. Let me explain. I would love to have basic bulk bricks available in some of the newer colors, especially dark blue, dark red, dark green, dark tan and dark orange. Since I wouldn't (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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Would be curious to know the rank of the first Technic part in the survey... Philo (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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"Larry Pieniazek" schreef in bericht news:HyAy64.Lps@lugnet.com... (...) then (...) Please do not forget, Europeans pay completely different amounts of money for their tubs. In the US they practically give those tubs away, over here they don't :-( (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) You're right. I am sorry, I did forget that. (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Well, here's one reason, ala Jeremy Rear... (URL) tend to think 1x2 are more versatile than the longer bricks. Scott Lyttle (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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"Larry Pieniazek" schreef in bericht news:HyBnwD.7Ir@lugnet.com... (...) money (...) No problem, it's just something people over here get frustrated over all the time ;-) We want US prices :-D (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Thanks again, Richard & Jake. I think the results show how diverse our individual needs (wants?) are. For colors, I am surprised (and disappointed) dark red is not more prominent. For parts, I don't understand why black tiles are listed. They (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Looks like they already did :) Honestly, I had many problems with the survey, I took it minutes after annoucement. my "shopping cart" got emptied a few times, and when i finally submitted, I found out it only contained 1 item... 2x2 concave (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) "100,000 2x4s", which train clubs would call "a good start" to building a layout... Yup. 2x4s in quantities (2500 bricks? 10,000 bricks?) would be awesome, and we'd buy 'em! Throw in the ability to buy 2x2 bricks, and we'd have 90% of the (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Eric Brok wrote: <snip> (...) This is why I think this survey was flawed in its design. Some people went in with the approach that they were voting for colors, while others concentrated on parts. Because of this dichotomy, the (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I pressed Jake on what criteria we should make our choices: What we use most, most of the time or what we would like the most because we can't get them this week? I also pointed out that I don't want bricks from LEGO that I can buy for less on (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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I similarly voted for 1x2 bricks, but in rare colors. I think part of this is the nature of such a survey. Going across all themes, it is nearly impossible for a speciallized piece to win through (except garage doors for some reason). Even if all (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) IMHO, I feel that they do figure prominently. 3 window/window related items out of 20 is 15%. Compare this to the 20% that basic-bricks make up or the 10% that plates make up, I'd say that Windows made a fair showing. When examining the (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) snipped (...) John- Exactly! I would have bought 10,000 2x4 bricks in light gray or dark gray at $0.04 each in a split second. Survey respondents should have been asked how many they would buy at a specified price. That would have made for (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Having already built one 66 studs square, I can tell you it gets insanely expensive after a while to make it larger ;-) But yeah, I listed a clear tri-peak and clear corner slopes for just that reason, for finishing the Luxor (yeah, I'd have lots of (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Agreed, but also WAY more plentiful already. My guess is most 1x2s were selected in bleys and r-brown, which seems to be supported (if only slightly) by the colour-specific list. Anyway the top 20 doesn't really mean all that much - hopefully (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I could post a reply elsewhere, but my comments cover more than one thing. I am pleased to see the convace slopes as wanted, as someone wrote, the 5205 (?), anyway, selection of roof tiles would be great. There is a selection now, but limited. (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Thank you for your reply in this thread since it explains my thoughts as well. This survey was quite vague in what you were actually supposed to be thinking about. Personally I picked parts that are rare but I would use in a lot of projects (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Richard/Jake, I know there have been a lot of community related things happening lately, but have any recent developements been made on this or the bulk program in general? thanks in advance. Jonathan (longing for bulk grey/bley 2x2 tiles) (20 years ago, 7-Jan-05, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'm not sure if I've posted about it, but the original bulk brick survey results were integrated into the discussion of what palette of bricks LDD would have at launch, and in the future, and how that was going to tie into LEGO Factory. I know (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jan-05, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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