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(...) possible... (...) NEARLY (...) Yep. I was in it, I remember ;-) (...) Or otherwise, he was in need of money, so he faked the set... I don't know, but I'd bet rip-off - too many weird things about this set: the "translated" Logo, the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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IT'S A FAKE!! And what is more it is fraud and he can be reported to the internet and consumer fraud department. Most Likely this gentleman took a falcon fortress and made a total fake with suplimented parts. Infact I wouldn't doubt it if the person (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Can you prove it is? It doesn't look like a fake. If it is then it is a really good fake. The only thing I find out of place other than the set itself being very skimpy is that the "dalu" logo is not aligned in the center of the red square. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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I'm not sure that thing is a fake or not, but the minifigs really get me; just why do they look like that? It doesn't seem as though TLG would alter the minifigs in a set (as already established, this one looks like Black Falcon Fortress). That logo (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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Common sense isn't common at all. Very good. Now why do you say this is a fraud? -- Have fun! John The Legos you've been dreaming of... (URL) weird Lego site: (URL) is yet another tool in the dumbing-down of America by a power structure that relies (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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I am with Doyle on this one. This is not an authentic LEGO set. LEGO is LEGO. DALU is totally different. Even the Japanese promo sets from the Kabaya Candy Company say LEGO on them ((URL) Go to (URL) and look at the official LEGO address listings. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) a clone of some type! I'm just surprised that we haven't heard of it before. enjoy! (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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Reference: (URL) don't think the seller can be trusted here. I don't care what he types in an email, he likely is not truthful. Here is what I believe the situation is: - All of the pieces are genuine Lego elements - The box is a genuine Lego box - (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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Interesting theory. However, 1. It seems like a lot of work for someone to kludge up a new image to paste on the cover of an existing box. What some people won't do for money .... but it seems like too much work to me. More tellingly, 2. The castle (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I don't believe this. Why would someone go through all the trouble of making a fake box just because they wanted to keep the special pieces from that set? If they wanted to just get the pieces, they could auction off the rest for parts and I'm (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I don't think the seller is trying to deceive anyone! In his email to me, he stated that he didn't know much about lego. He was also upfront in telling me that the pieces didn't have the lego logo on them. I think that he was convinced that (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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Tom Reed <Merthyn1@webtv.net> schreef in berichtnieuws FntEHn.LoG@lugnet.com... <snip> (...) You're thinking the same thing I am, aren't you? Trying to find an easier way to get those castle sets and bricks! J/k :o) -- Arjan Brugman - (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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D. Jezek <danjezek@REMOVEaloha.net> schreef in berichtnieuws Fnt3v2.H6H@lugnet.com... <snip> (...) It's (...) arabian (...) If I recall correctly, "Lego" is Danish for "play" or something similar. Just thought I'd let you know. :o) -- Arjan Brugman (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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Kevin Salm <kdsalm@dreamscape.com> schreef in berichtnieuws FnsuxI.C8@lugnet.com... (...) (URL) (...) in (...) Man, you really went out of your way to solve this mystery! Great work Kevin! Just some small notes for info: (...) to (...) would (...) (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I have no idea where that big clone come from. Recently I saw some small LEGO clone sets in Toronto. They were inside one of those "insert coins to roll a toy in ball" machines. All of them are older small sets like 1733. There is no LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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According to the book, "The World of LEGO® Toys,1987, the Word LEGO, was coined by Ole Kirk, founder of LEGO, based on the danish phrase "leg godt" which translates to 'play well". Interesting side note is that Ole found out later the Latin word (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Yes, of course! %^/ What I meant to say is that the name of a company cannot be different in another country especially used as a logo on the box of a product. But someone else already said that and I'm not going to repeat it. :-x Seeing this (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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John Morgan <trees@utk.edu> schreef in berichtnieuws Fnu594.851@lugnet.com... (...) out (...) Yes! That's it! I knew I wasn't completely right. Sounds like Lego was meant to be. :o) Thanks for refreshing my memory! -- Arjan Brugman - (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I don't see how any of the pieces can be anything but genuine Lego. It is really hard to tell from the photos if the corner wall segements are rounded or not but I don't think that they are. If you look at the assembled pieces at the top where (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Out of curiosity, have you ever heard of "Shifty"? They are a Chinese clone that duplicates everything from pieces to sets to logo image. They are a true "clone" in every sense of the word! The only difference is the quality. They certainly (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I agree with you here- they don't really look rounded to me-- the shadows from the upper overhang make it look pretty flat. (...) I'm wondering on this one... suppose you bought a lego set-- how much would it be to make something like a sand (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) An inkjet printer would turn out good enough pictures for this purpose (...) What if he has a bunch of 6074s? I'd watch this fellow to see if he auctions more of these, and if in the future he auctions the rare pieces. (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.market.theory)
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This is all starting to sound like a conspiracy theory... Someone already posted info from the seller that the bricks don't have Lego molded onto the studs (or Dula for that matter), they freely gave up this info indicating an ignorance of Lego. I (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Most likely Taiwan. I know they do not support International Copyright Law. I have some CDs I purchased before I knew of this that are rip-offs. They were made by a company called Son May, which copies Anime and Video Game Soundtracks and (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) or (...) The wall corners are round take a close look its as obvious as day! also the lego corners are one piece, his corners look like the old mega blocks castle pieces. Doyle It's not all lego but maybe 75%, but still I wouldn't pay those (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I agree with your points. The set is likely to be fake, and it prolly is (I don't want to accuse anybody, but the facts are not on the seller's side here, unless he/she would like to come out and say something we haven't noticed... not likely (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Believe it or not, boxes may vary significantly from one area to another. For example, I have two 6080s, one from Canada and one from the US. Here's a brief list of differences: The US 6080: -Box is more "orangey-yellow" in colour -Says "664 (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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Here's some pics of Shifty boxes: (URL) a link from the construction clones page (URL) copies of lego boxes! i'm no expert but i'm inclined to believe that this dalu set is another rip-off clone. getting that photography so close to classic lego (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Has anyone emailed the winner and asked them to enlighten us when they receive the set? After all the controversy, it would seem like a good idea! I'm curious if the winner thinks they bought a true lego set or not. I still don't believe the (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) ... and the winner is ... amf70! In the past 4 years I haven't seen anyone outbid this guy. If it's rare and it's something he wants, he will get it. No matter what the price. (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) That's Abner all right. Even *I* don't go up against him (much). He has some amazing stuff(1), some of which I have been privileged enough to see. Thanks, Abner... Note the timings, he's got sniping down to a science. That other sniper, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) But, the question is.... Does he read/post on Lugnet? RTL? (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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As a seller, I really like Abner ;-) As a competing buyer, its futile. My feeling about this set, is that its a knock-off, like Mega Blocks or Tyco. Although not many people are interested in old Mega Blocks Castles, they aren't exactly easy to (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) I know he used to post on RTL back in 1995 or so - I recognize the email address. He posted with the pseudonym "Ace Maze," I think. -- jthompson@esker.com "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily" (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I don't know if it is appropriate to dig through someone's posts but in case you want to read them, try using dejanews: (URL) can also read his one and only post here on lugnet by typing in his name in the search box on the main page :-) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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John, can you email Abner and find out about this Daluland stuff. I think that a lot of us are still wondering about this stuff and if there is any authentic Lego in this lot. Thanks Kevin Salm (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) More of a lurker, I guess. Now, if you all came to the GMLTC meetings, you'd get to see some of this stuff, that's what I am saying. :-) C'mon, Minneapolis in the winter isn't THAT cold and windy. What are you saving those airline miles for, (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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