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Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:39:04 GMT
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Interesting theory.
However,
1. It seems like a lot of work for someone to kludge up
a new image to paste on the cover of an existing box. What
some people won't do for money .... but it seems like too
much work to me.
More tellingly,
2. The castle wall corners appear to be round (look in the bottom
picture showing the contents of the set, in the left half of
the box). It looks awfully round to me, and therefore wouldn't
be a genuine LEGO element.
My guess - it's a clone, and the person is legitimately describing
the pieces when he says that there are no logos on the studs.
If Margo K is making the winning bid on the set, I hope she will
tell us the results of the winnings after she's gotten her hands
on the set.
This point of yours ("The most valuable pieces from set 6074 are not present
in this auction offering. Likely harvested out; other pieces added to
compensate and make a more "complete" castle.") is fairly compelling
to my suspicious mind, though.
--
jthompson@esker.com "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily"
In lugnet.castle, Kevin Salm writes:
> Reference: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227975305
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> I don't think the seller can be trusted here. I don't care what he types in
> an email, he likely is not truthful.
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> Here is what I believe the situation is:
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> - All of the pieces are genuine Lego elements
> - The box is a genuine Lego box
> - The box is likely the box from Lego 6074 with a totally new image glued to
> the front and inside cover. I am looking at the boxes for 6073 and 7074
> right now and even the inside cover picture is different. However, I would
> bet that the rest of the box has been unchanged unless this seller really
> doesn't want anyone to know it was once a Lego box.
> - I do think that if I am correct, the job of putting new images on the box
> has been done very precisely as the inside cover looks nearly perfect as far
> as background color and any paper edges showing.
> - Notice that the box divider looks just like the 6073 or 6074 box except
> that the printed words USE THIS BOX FOR STORAGE is not present. I detect a
> slight yellow color variation so I think that this has been covered up
> (unless it was never on non-US Lego boxes).
>
> - The pieces themselves may have come from several Lego sets, mostly 6074.
> This would account for incorrect minifigs, incorrect shields, one extra
> horse, No Yellow Tudor wall section, No Yellow half-arches, No Black extreme
> slope corners or 4-sided pyramid piece.
> - The printing on the wall segments may have been removed or the pieces have
> been replaced with plain Gray wall sections from other sets.
> - The most valuable pieces from set 6074 are not present in this auction
> offering. Likely harvested out; other pieces added to compensate and make a
> more "complete" castle.
>
> - From what I see, someone went to a lot of trouble to make us believe that
> Dalu is actual Lego and has their own offerings of sets. The Logo burns me
> up. The red Dalu logo is too fuzzy--plus everything everyone else has said
> about touching the flag, etc. I don't have old-enough non-US Lego Castle
> set boxes to compare it to, but it does not seem to measure up to Lego
> standards. The most striking omission might be piece count if that was
> present on the Lego 6074 Euro boxes.
>
> - I do not know what printed Arabic text looks like, but I think that if
> Lego were to translate into another language, they would use characters from
> that language. This fake box was done with the English alphabet only--no
> special characters at all. Another sticky point.
>
> - Authenticating the name Dalu has not turned up any toy or plastics
> manufacturers.
> So far this is what I have found:
> 1. Canadian Trademark Database refers me to info on importing Chinese
> industrial goods such as bathroom fixtures
> 2. Shanghai Dalu Friendship International Hotel Equipment and Facilities
> Trading Center
> 3. search of LOCIS.LOC.GOV via telnet (Library of Congress) gives no matches
> to any searches
> 4. US Patent & Trademark Office searches also have no matches for Dalu or
> Daluland
> 5. No matches in UK Patent & Trademark Office
> 6. Additional online searches futile.
>
> Anyway, that is my view on this. Overall, I believe that the pieces are
> Lego but that it does not correctly represent any specific Lego set. Dalu
> and Daluland are fictitious and cooked up by the seller.
>
> _______________________________________________________
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> Kevin Salm
> ....The biggest fan of the Gray Lego brick....
> _______________________________________________________
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>
> > Tom Reed wrote in message ...
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> > For all of you who are speculating about the castle set on ebay, I think I
> have the answer! I emailed >the guy who is auctioning it off and at first
> he told me that "dalu" is Arabian for "lego"! Since he didn't >say anymore,
> I emailed him again and asked that he check the bricks and let me know if
> they had >lego stamped on them. He wrote back and said they didn't! He
> said that they didn't have anything on >them! Therefore, I think we can
> safely say that these are not true lego pieces! Dalu is obviously
> > a clone of some type! I'm just surprised that we haven't heard of it
> before
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| (...) I don't believe this. Why would someone go through all the trouble of making a fake box just because they wanted to keep the special pieces from that set? If they wanted to just get the pieces, they could auction off the rest for parts and I'm (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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| (...) I don't see how any of the pieces can be anything but genuine Lego. It is really hard to tell from the photos if the corner wall segements are rounded or not but I don't think that they are. If you look at the assembled pieces at the top where (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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| Reference: (URL) don't think the seller can be trusted here. I don't care what he types in an email, he likely is not truthful. Here is what I believe the situation is: - All of the pieces are genuine Lego elements - The box is a genuine Lego box - (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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