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Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:24:07 GMT
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Reference: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227975305
I don't think the seller can be trusted here. I don't care what he types in
an email, he likely is not truthful.
Here is what I believe the situation is:
- All of the pieces are genuine Lego elements
- The box is a genuine Lego box
- The box is likely the box from Lego 6074 with a totally new image glued to
the front and inside cover. I am looking at the boxes for 6073 and 7074
right now and even the inside cover picture is different. However, I would
bet that the rest of the box has been unchanged unless this seller really
doesn't want anyone to know it was once a Lego box.
- I do think that if I am correct, the job of putting new images on the box
has been done very precisely as the inside cover looks nearly perfect as far
as background color and any paper edges showing.
- Notice that the box divider looks just like the 6073 or 6074 box except
that the printed words USE THIS BOX FOR STORAGE is not present. I detect a
slight yellow color variation so I think that this has been covered up
(unless it was never on non-US Lego boxes).
- The pieces themselves may have come from several Lego sets, mostly 6074.
This would account for incorrect minifigs, incorrect shields, one extra
horse, No Yellow Tudor wall section, No Yellow half-arches, No Black extreme
slope corners or 4-sided pyramid piece.
- The printing on the wall segments may have been removed or the pieces have
been replaced with plain Gray wall sections from other sets.
- The most valuable pieces from set 6074 are not present in this auction
offering. Likely harvested out; other pieces added to compensate and make a
more "complete" castle.
- From what I see, someone went to a lot of trouble to make us believe that
Dalu is actual Lego and has their own offerings of sets. The Logo burns me
up. The red Dalu logo is too fuzzy--plus everything everyone else has said
about touching the flag, etc. I don't have old-enough non-US Lego Castle
set boxes to compare it to, but it does not seem to measure up to Lego
standards. The most striking omission might be piece count if that was
present on the Lego 6074 Euro boxes.
- I do not know what printed Arabic text looks like, but I think that if
Lego were to translate into another language, they would use characters from
that language. This fake box was done with the English alphabet only--no
special characters at all. Another sticky point.
- Authenticating the name Dalu has not turned up any toy or plastics
manufacturers.
So far this is what I have found:
1. Canadian Trademark Database refers me to info on importing Chinese
industrial goods such as bathroom fixtures
2. Shanghai Dalu Friendship International Hotel Equipment and Facilities
Trading Center
3. search of LOCIS.LOC.GOV via telnet (Library of Congress) gives no matches
to any searches
4. US Patent & Trademark Office searches also have no matches for Dalu or
Daluland
5. No matches in UK Patent & Trademark Office
6. Additional online searches futile.
Anyway, that is my view on this. Overall, I believe that the pieces are
Lego but that it does not correctly represent any specific Lego set. Dalu
and Daluland are fictitious and cooked up by the seller.
_______________________________________________________
Kevin Salm
....The biggest fan of the Gray Lego brick....
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> Tom Reed wrote in message ...
> For all of you who are speculating about the castle set on ebay, I think I
have the answer! I emailed >the guy who is auctioning it off and at first
he told me that "dalu" is Arabian for "lego"! Since he didn't >say anymore,
I emailed him again and asked that he check the bricks and let me know if
they had >lego stamped on them. He wrote back and said they didn't! He
said that they didn't have anything on >them! Therefore, I think we can
safely say that these are not true lego pieces! Dalu is obviously
> a clone of some type! I'm just surprised that we haven't heard of it
before.
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| Interesting theory. However, 1. It seems like a lot of work for someone to kludge up a new image to paste on the cover of an existing box. What some people won't do for money .... but it seems like too much work to me. More tellingly, 2. The castle (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
| | | Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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| Kevin Salm <kdsalm@dreamscape.com> schreef in berichtnieuws FnsuxI.C8@lugnet.com... (...) (URL) (...) in (...) Man, you really went out of your way to solve this mystery! Great work Kevin! Just some small notes for info: (...) to (...) would (...) (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
| | | Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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| (...) I agree with your points. The set is likely to be fake, and it prolly is (I don't want to accuse anybody, but the facts are not on the seller's side here, unless he/she would like to come out and say something we haven't noticed... not likely (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
| | | Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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| (...) Believe it or not, boxes may vary significantly from one area to another. For example, I have two 6080s, one from Canada and one from the US. Here's a brief list of differences: The US 6080: -Box is more "orangey-yellow" in colour -Says "664 (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.castle)
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